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Randonb wrote:

I have always been curious whether Disarming Shot had an additional damage multiplier vs Vehicles, the way it does vs Lairs.

I can definitively tell you that it does. Because of the very limited hitpoints of vehicles and relative unimportance of this test, I did not get loads and loads of numbers to post about it. I can tell you however that the damage bonus vs the vehicles is not displayed in the "combat spam" (the numbers listed in your combat tab on the chat window). That is the damage before the bonus is applied. The damage numbers that float over your target is the actual damage done in this instance. Because of this difference in the numbers, the conclusion was obvious in only a couple of shots. I reduced the vehicle to rubble, just to be safe.

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I tested using a CDEF Pistol against a Swoop Bike, a mission lair, and an NPC using Disarming Shot 1, Disarming Shot 2, and the default attack.

Lair: had the double damage bonus with both DS 1 & 2, no bonus with the default attack

Vehicle: had the double damage bonus with both DS 1 & 2, no bonus with the default attack

NPC: did not have damage bonus for any of the attacks

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Some more interesting facts I came across crunching the numbers:

Disarming Shot 2 has the best DPS vs these targets, even surpassing Stopping Shot. DS2 has a natural multiplier of 2.7, bringing it to 5.4 with the bonus. Stopping Shot has only a 5.0 multiplier (DS2 providing 8% more damage per shot). Additionally, the delay modifier on DS2 is 2.5, compared to Stopping Shot's 4.0.

HAM Cost, however, is a concern. DS2 has a higher HAM cost than Stopping shot by approximately 38%. If you don't have a lot of action, Stopping Shot might bring down that 45k hit point lair a bit faster. The call is yours to make, as this is situational. To sum it up for those who don't want to read all of that:

Disarming Shot 2: 5.4x damage modifier (after the bonus). 2.5x delay modifier. Higher HAM cost.

Stopping Shot: 5.0x damage modifier. 4.0x delay modifier.

But what about the non-masters? What should they use for blowing up these targets?

Definitely Disarming Shot 1. You are still looking at a special with a delay mod of 2.3 and a damage multiplier of 2.0 (4.0 after bonus). This is the same damage as Fan Shot, but 0.1 faster on the delay mod. Stopping Shot is just too darn slow at low levels to even be considered.

Disarming Shot 1: 4.0x damage modifier (after bonus). 2.3 delay modifier.

Fan Shot: 4.0x damage modifier. 2.4 delay modifier.

Just a novice? You should try Kip Up Shot and Rolling Shot. They are your best bet.

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Nice work Randonb! Thats good information to know.

Afraid not, Kalia. It has occured to me how disgusting it is that we are talking about a master level special in terms of shaving a few seconds off of Mission Lair disposal. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

Rest assured, I continue the campaign to give our special attacks meaning.

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"...You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." biwan:
Former Pistoleer Correspondent (02/04/04 - 09/05/04)

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Barr1cade wrote:
Here'sa use for disarming shot - damage the opponents weapon...

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BeWary wrote:
I have tested it and it also recieves the damage bonus Vs turrets. Coupled with the launcher pistol you can put up some nice numbers.

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