Pistoleer Archive
Thread: YAY! i mastered pistoleer... oh wait wth
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Kaljab
Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:50 am
#1
I mastered pistoleer, and it made me want to quit swg
Why?
Simply put, it opened my eyes to how broken SWG is, and that the devs dont give a damn about us
Fo' Sho
FoEPR
LordMaxx
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:28 am
#2
Kaljab wrote:I mastered pistoleer, and it made me want to quit swgWhy?Simply put, it opened my eyes to how broken SWG is, and that the devs dont give a damn about us
Sure they do
Great things in store for pistoleer
Strikke
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:44 am
#3
LordMaxx wrote:
Kaljab wrote:
I mastered pistoleer, and it made me want to quit swg
Why?
Simply put, it opened my eyes to how broken SWG is, and that the devs dont give a damn about us
Sure they do
You mean like working specials?
Strikke
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:35 am
#5
GedaTholit wrote:
What specials dont work?
You are joking, right?
Darth-Kevlar
Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:28 am
#6
LordMaxx wrote:
Sure they do
Maybe it's because I'm sick, with pains and with a terrible mod but that kind of answer is the same kind of smog the devs been feeding us for the last 12 months.
It's not your fault Maxx, I know, but seriously - and forgive me for the adrenalized answer-can't you justbe quiet until you can actually give us real profs about that, instead of naughty smiles that don't change the fact that we have been sucking since at least september 2003 and no matter how much goodwill any of the previous correspondants had , we continued to suck today? And will suck next month , and probably the month after that one?
Whereare the rebalance documents? Any of us had a chance to see them?
Why do we bother to pay 15 per month to play a class that has at best 4 working specials and can't do anything to high level content?
the man was right : the devs dont give a damn about us!
p.s. this post was written under the effects of "fire water"
Tlk
Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:46 am
#7
People need to relax a bit.
Pistoleer does not suck, it is a great profession with capable specials (some need work, but all teh professions have specials that need work).
The problem is, people need to ask if they like to play as a pistoleer. Pistoleers are not the solo high level PvE professionals that the swordsman or rifleman are, they are however on par with fencers, pikeman, carbineer and TKA.
If you want to be a looter, and solo at that, then you really need to be 1 of the 2 professions for that (rifleman or swordsman). If you want to be great in PvP, then there are various pistoleer templates taht you can choose from.
Personally, I love the combination of smuggler and pistoleer, commando and pistoleer, fencer and pistoleer.
For me they are all fantasitic, but I also am not a person that is interested in solo lotting. I like my close group of friends that will help me go after the high end content (the way it should be for all professions from my perspective), but I also am great at solo PvE when no one is around.
Thus, we all really need to be patient for the CU (yeah I know that sucks, and I am one of the people tha have been screaming for over a year for it to get here in other forums), see what the new roles are going to be, and then make our decision on what profession and combination there of to play. Hopefully the testers here will try various pistoleer combat professions and give us guidance on what are the new good combinations.
BaneShee
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:21 am
#8
OK ... another person Masters Pistols and now they feel they have a right to b%#ch. Look you should have know way before you mastered that Pistoleer has problems cause they don't just begin at MP. The devs have already conceded that all combat is hosed so take a pill or move on to another combat profession that doesn't have problems .. Of course your welcome here but try and post something constructive. I get tired of all the whining about how broke we are .
LordMaxx
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:35 am
#9
I agree...and I was in your shoes up until I was made correspondent...Just sitting there waiting for the magical CU to happen...now at least I know for a fact that developers are working on the CU there is actual manpower going into the CU and one of those facets is the Pistoleer profession. We arent horribly off, but unfortuantely we have to use BH and/or smuggler to make our profession work and the main thing I want to accomplish with the CU (alpha is but a few weeks away) is to make sure Pistoleers can Stand alone and be accounted a dangerous opponent without the need of BH speed, Smuggler Specials or Ultra rare uber doober Krayt weapons.
I want a Master Pistoleer to be able to stand toe to toe with any other advanced combat profession and unfortunately the only thing I can say right now is the Plan looks good. And there will be 6 of us...more likely 20 of us (some smugglers and several of the crafters want to see pistols through the CU) who will be working for several weeks just to make sure that we dont necessarily come out on top, but that we come out with a fighting chance...if we do it right...NO ONE will come out on top.
I know your tired of the same old answer...Im tired of holding this stuff in...Im tired of waiting for the sandbox (although my JTL addiction has helped somewhat) Im tired of seeing the droves of Master Swordsman and Master Riflemen tags above people's heads, Its time for a change, its time to make sure that one of the primary weapons that is associated with this universe that we have come to love (and hate often enough) is given its due respect. And that we dont have to be a Jango clone to make it work. Im going to keep coming into this forum and shoving "All will be well with the CU" down your throats because all will be well...Im going to make it my duty and my obsession to make sure this profession is given its due. Riflemen have been tweaked, Carbineers have been overhauled, its time for pistoleers to get what they deserve and the Devs have noticed that it takes other hybrid traits to make this prof work, that is NOT what is intended, but unfortunately what has developed over the past year of this game.
Ill be glad when you guys/gals can finally see what I have seen and think...yes this could work...if done right and good people on the job working FOR the pistoleer can make sure to be heard then we might finally see what we can be.
So, in closing, Im sorry that you have had to wait...Im better off with my knowledge but in the end Im just sitting and waiting also. I am sorry that the only real thing I can say is Wait for the CU, but in the end...thats all there is to it. Im a Software Engineer I know the lifecycle of programming something of this magnitude doesnt happen overnight. And it will take time to get it right through testing, balancing, retesting, rebalancing. But I assure you there are plenty of people who are concerned about this profession...and this profession alone to be what it should have been over a year ago.
/end soapbox
I want a Master Pistoleer to be able to stand toe to toe with any other advanced combat profession and unfortunately the only thing I can say right now is the Plan looks good. And there will be 6 of us...more likely 20 of us (some smugglers and several of the crafters want to see pistols through the CU) who will be working for several weeks just to make sure that we dont necessarily come out on top, but that we come out with a fighting chance...if we do it right...NO ONE will come out on top.
I know your tired of the same old answer...Im tired of holding this stuff in...Im tired of waiting for the sandbox (although my JTL addiction has helped somewhat) Im tired of seeing the droves of Master Swordsman and Master Riflemen tags above people's heads, Its time for a change, its time to make sure that one of the primary weapons that is associated with this universe that we have come to love (and hate often enough
) is given its due respect. And that we dont have to be a Jango clone to make it work. Im going to keep coming into this forum and shoving "All will be well with the CU" down your throats because all will be well...Im going to make it my duty and my obsession to make sure this profession is given its due. Riflemen have been tweaked, Carbineers have been overhauled, its time for pistoleers to get what they deserve and the Devs have noticed that it takes other hybrid traits to make this prof work, that is NOT what is intended, but unfortunately what has developed over the past year of this game.Ill be glad when you guys/gals can finally see what I have seen and think...yes this could work...if done right and good people on the job working FOR the pistoleer can make sure to be heard then we might finally see what we can be.
So, in closing, Im sorry that you have had to wait...Im better off with my knowledge but in the end Im just sitting and waiting also. I am sorry that the only real thing I can say is Wait for the CU, but in the end...thats all there is to it. Im a Software Engineer I know the lifecycle of programming something of this magnitude doesnt happen overnight. And it will take time to get it right through testing, balancing, retesting, rebalancing. But I assure you there are plenty of people who are concerned about this profession...and this profession alone to be what it should have been over a year ago.
/end soapbox
Ternque01
Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:14 pm
#10
Actually, this thread is an incredible one. The original poster basically says how we all feel. Props to LordMaxx for the soap box. Alot of valid points in here. Of course, I can't say I haven't been both disgruntled and optimistic at the same time.
I blows my chain that with my 500 max damage pistols I still am not competitive with a rifleman who buys a average gun off the bazaar for 6k. I am expecting the best here, and that is what I will recieve concerning the CU.
Darth-Kevlar
Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:26 pm
#13
LordMaxx wrote:
I agree...and I was in your shoes up until I was made correspondent...Just sitting there waiting for the magical CU to happen...now at least I know for a fact that developers are working on the CU there is actual manpower going into the CU and one of those facets is the Pistoleer profession. We arent horribly off, but unfortuantely we have to use BH and/or smuggler to make our profession work and the main thing I want to accomplish with the CU (alpha is but a few weeks away) is to make sure Pistoleers can Stand alone and be accounted a dangerous opponent without the need of BH speed, Smuggler Specials or Ultra rare uber doober Krayt weapons.
I want a Master Pistoleer to be able to stand toe to toe with any other advanced combat profession and unfortunately the only thing I can say right now is the Plan looks good. And there will be 6 of us...more likely 20 of us (some smugglers and several of the crafters want to see pistols through the CU) who will be working for several weeks just to make sure that we dont necessarily come out on top, but that we come out with a fighting chance...if we do it right...NO ONE will come out on top.
I know your tired of the same old answer...Im tired of holding this stuff in...Im tired of waiting for the sandbox (although my JTL addiction has helped somewhat) Im tired of seeing the droves of Master Swordsman and Master Riflemen tags above people's heads, Its time for a change, its time to make sure that one of the primary weapons that is associated with this universe that we have come to love (and hate often enough
Ill be glad when you guys/gals can finally see what I have seen and think...yes this could work...if done right and good people on the job working FOR the pistoleer can make sure to be heard then we might finally see what we can be.
So, in closing, Im sorry that you have had to wait...Im better off with my knowledge but in the end Im just sitting and waiting also. I am sorry that the only real thing I can say is Wait for the CU, but in the end...thats all there is to it. Im a Software Engineer I know the lifecycle of programming something of this magnitude doesnt happen overnight. And it will take time to get it right through testing, balancing, retesting, rebalancing. But I assure you there are plenty of people who are concerned about this profession...and this profession alone to be what it should have been over a year ago.
/end soapbox
I sure hope so. I mastered pistoleer in early august... 2003... was my first elite prof and i'm still master pistoleer. Despite all the problems, nerfs and lows I never choosed to surrender the skills. Since I started playing I wanted to be a pistol user, nothing more interests me combat wise.. but after 14 months on the downside, It simply starts to be boring,,,, and i'm finding myself loging each time less and less on SWG because that combat rebalance should have happen 6 months ago.
I'll believe that with good testers things might become better, but mainly beacuse of players testing stuff since "The devs" aren't worth my respector any kind of thrustbecause stupid, incoherent decisions likedelaying the MUCH needed combat rebalance are killing this game every minute.
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