Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Is Master Pistoeer Worth IT?
biwan:i am a master and im pretty happy with the dodge and so forth...but u really need smuggler to be effective 
i am
master pistoleer
smuggler 0/0/4/0
doc 0/4/3/0
master medic
I'm not a master yet, but I will be. Be mindful of the future and think about all the busted shots Pistoleer has. We are due for a major update to fix our deficiencies. Ontop of that think about the new combat update due out sooner or later.
Just some things to think about-- your so close...
Tulkas Stormcrow, Lowca
ereethaxor wrote:
+20 pistol speed at master pistol
This is true, but you will already hit your speed cap before you get the +20 pistol speed from the master box if you use a weapon with 2.1 or less attack speed. Therefore, the +20 pistol speed is not needed. The other mods do help though. you can never have too much accuracy or defense.
Basically once you complete the master pistol special abilities line you will have 54 speed, using a weapon with 2.1 speed will put youunder the 1 shot per second cap.
the forumula is.....
(2.1)*(1-(54/100))
(weapon speed) * [1 - (speed skill mod/100) ]
this makes you shoot at .966
That's less than 1 shot per second and since the cap is 1 shot per second, the extra +20 speed you get from master don't mean anything.
This doesn't include the fact that you can have 3 (48 pistol speed)boxes in the master pistol special abilities line and have master marksman (+5 pistol speed) and still reach the cap with (53 pistol speed). You can also have armor attachments and clothing attachments that can cap your pistol speed before you reach master. Again, making the speed from master pistoleer irrelevant.
I only stated all of this because most people I know if not all use pistols with 2.0 speed or less.
But like I said, the other things you pick up from the master pistoleer box are worth it....just the speed don't mean anything by the time you get master.
I think you fail to see the weapon delay from using specials. I'm not sure where it would factor in, but it seems you overlooked it.
HardwiredXMan wrote:
ereethaxor wrote:
+20 pistol speed at master pistol
This is true, but you will already hit your speed cap before you get the +20 pistol speed from the master box if you use a weapon with 2.1 or less attack speed. Therefore, the +20 pistol speed is not needed. The other mods do help though. you can never have too much accuracy or defense.
Basically once you complete the master pistol special abilities line you will have 54 speed, using a weapon with 2.1 speed will put youunder the 1 shot per second cap.
the forumula is.....
(2.1)*(1-(54/100))
(weapon speed) * [1 - (speed skill mod/100) ]
this makes you shoot at .966
That's less than 1 shot per second and since the cap is 1 shot per second, the extra +20 speed you get from master don't mean anything.
This doesn't include the fact that you can have 3 (48 pistol speed)boxes in the master pistol special abilities line and have master marksman (+5 pistol speed) and still reach the cap with (53 pistol speed). You can also have armor attachments and clothing attachments that can cap your pistol speed before you reach master. Again, making the speed from master pistoleer irrelevant.
I only stated all of this because most people I know if not all use pistols with 2.0 speed or less.
But like I said, the other things you pick up from the master pistoleer box are worth it....just the speed don't mean anything by the time you get master.
I know I read a few months ago that the pistol speed mod "bottoms out" or gates or what-have-you at a certain weapon speed and stops helping you. This is true for basic attacks, as I've noticed no real difference with any of my weapons.
However, the extra +20 at master helps quite a bit when you are using specials. With my fwg5 (1.7 spd - 1.3 w/spd powerup), /stoppingshot is now as faster than regular attacks with my rep blaster.