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Slipp-Wilson

Sat May 15, 2004 11:18 pm

Hello fellow Pistoleers,

I was getting tired of getting craped on with the pistoleer profession so i decided to get rid of some stuff but keep pistoleer. I decided to take up tka and let me tell you, BIG DIFFERENCE! I can kill things now that i could only start killing when i was almost master pistoleer. Im at 1123 right now in tka and i can alrdy do this. Now that just shows how borked we really are. That's really sad that im not even half way thru tka and im almost as good as my pistoleer. I have great guns, dx2, MRB, Geo pistol(pretty decent), ect. This has really made me upset that i spent so much time on my pistoleer to find its really that useless. Im not dropping pistoleer, im waiting for the combat rebalance just like most people. Ifi feel that pistoleer is still a borked profession after the CB, then im dropping it. I love pistoleer dont get me wrong, but its just useless when i can throw out so much better damage at so much faster speeds. I REALLY hope they fix us,i know you guys have seen these exact type of messages before but its nothing if you've never stepped outta the pistoleer box. All i had before tka was M Pistoleer, DF 4, and some doctor. Once i really stepped outta the box and tryed something new, its really sad and depressing to see how much we really do suck. Alright enough rambling. Thanks for reading guys. Leave a comment if you wish.

Name: Slipp Wilson

Proffession: Whatever i Respec to next

Server: Wanderhome

Faction: Rebel

Home World: Dantooine

Slipp-Wilson

Sat May 15, 2004 11:20 pm

#2

Oh and i wanna add that the exp you get from tka is ridiculous, ill have this mastered if i play for a few more days straight.... Im not a power gamer but i do play alot. I just take my time so the game stays fun.

Message Edited by Slipp-Wilson on 05-16-2004 02:20 AM

Name: Slipp Wilson

Proffession: Whatever i Respec to next

Server: Wanderhome

Faction: Rebel

Home World: Dantooine

Sanderman

Sun May 16, 2004 4:51 am

#3

u have to remember though tka only has 1 kind of attack kenitic.

heat to but that is goin to be realy expensive considerin you have to craft it in the bunker.

pistoleer is good pve same with tka.TKAs suck in pvp cause every1 has 80% ken armor.pistoleer suck with out a stun geno or realy realy realy good tangler.

i say if u end up dropin pistoleer u need to pick up another combat profession.cause in pvp with tka you will be sol

It is all fun and games till I shoot you in the head.

SmoothJazzMan

Sun May 16, 2004 5:40 am

#4

Thats right keep whining about how tough TKA are. And how uber they are. You'll get us nerfed to. Thats all we need is another nerf.

Dor'cha Faldo

Master Smuggler/Teras Kasi Master/Master Pistoleer

Bria

If you can't duel with the big dogs...Stay on the Porch

WesBelden

Sun May 16, 2004 8:52 am

#5

SmoothJazzMan wrote:

Thats right keep whining about how tough TKA are. And how uber they are. You'll get us nerfed to. Thats all we need is another nerf.

Dor'cha Faldo

Master Smuggler/Teras Kasi Master/Master Pistoleer

Bria

If you can't duel with the big dogs...Stay on the Porch

Next time, before you come in on your high horse, try reading what the poster is saying. He is not saying TKA is over powered, nor is he whining about how good TKAs are; the poster's point was that when you compare Pistoleer to a healthy profession, such as TKA, it does not compare in the slightest. Ultimately his conclusion was that Pistoleer is crap, not that TKA are too good.

Also, on another note, no manner of whining will result in a nerf, as the Devs' answer to everything and anything to do withcombat related changes is that it will be dealt with in the CB where, in their newly created 'sand box' they will test each and every combat profession and balance them out so that they all have valid and working rolls in combat.

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Utess

Sun May 16, 2004 1:08 pm

#6

Well, one thing to keep in mind is that you are carrying a lot of defenses from Pistoleer over with you to TKM which makes it even easier. Specifically, all that melee defense and the state defenses from pistoleer are helping a lot. But, you are pretty much right. I was once a pistoleer a long time ago so I can say the difference is pretty big too sadly

Pistoleers, however, *are* better in PvP against a prepared opponent simply due to the fact that Kinetic damage(and heat damage) is so easy to protect against.And, as of right now TKAs can only do kinetic, although they will have an extremely hard to getheat option soon which really won't affect PvP much at all from how it is now.

a Pure TKA's main weaknesses are:

Limited Damage type

Lack of State Defenses

Lack of an effective CoB to help deal with ranged attacks

You are compensating for some of this by having pistoleer(in fact TKM + Pistoleer and/or Fencer is a popular and powerful combination), but you are pretty close to the mark =/

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Randonb

Sun May 16, 2004 2:17 pm

#7

It really can be a sight to behold to view a powerful (or just working) profession in action, after being a Pistoleer for so long. The melee defense from Pistoleer does help for stacking. I think we get 45, but I'm posting from work and don't have my notes. Not enough to really matter at Master Level all by itself, but enough to notice stacking as a low level melee. But if you really want to excel as a TKA (and not a Pistoleer hybrid), you'd be better off getting Master Brawler and getting your defenses from Fencer.

Good luck withit.

Message Edited by Randonb on 05-16-2004 04:20 PM

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Sanderman

Sun May 16, 2004 3:44 pm

#8

yeah if you wanna stack go fencerbut if u wanna have fun playin i say tka is the way to go tka is really fun imo.

and sorwdman are good cause they get a stun batton.and good defence.

It is all fun and games till I shoot you in the head.

Slipp-Wilson

Sun May 16, 2004 9:48 pm

#9

thanks for the feedback guys, i really do enjoy tka i DONT think its over powered, it has its downsides...but like most others said my main point is to show how borked we really are. Its kinda fun to go solo things with no armor and just a normal buff or vice versa. I don't wear armor now that im a tka because i think its cool to look different from everyone else. I like to be different, and that would be a great thing with rping which i also like to do

Name: Slipp Wilson

Proffession: Whatever i Respec to next

Server: Wanderhome

Faction: Rebel

Home World: Dantooine

Jinxmasta

Mon May 17, 2004 12:00 am

#10

Hehe I went from Master Swordsman to Pistoleer... Big difference (not in a good way). Swordsman was way too easy for me, but I wasn't expecting Pistoleer to be this bad...

Dakk' Nayro
Proud Member of the Crimson Republic

RicoUnderwood

Mon May 17, 2004 11:57 am

#11

I went pistoleer just for character. An RP thing. So far I wouldn'twin a fight with a pistolto save my life. PvE we're decent. But I kill it twice as fast with fencer. If I was still TKM I could sneeze and killthings

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One type of damage is no big deal. There aren't TOO many things in game that have high kinetic resist. Which is why my stun baton usually never comes out in PvE. Gaffi does287 basedamage and Stundoes 166. 40% kinetic resist so 40% of 287 is 115, so gaffi does 172 base and stun is 166. /shrug /equip gaffi

TKM is fun as hell, so Fencer. I just wish they'd made pistoleer that fun, lol.

Tobie

Boyscout, Plays with Tinkertoys, and Professional Stray

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Tlk

Mon May 17, 2004 1:14 pm

#12

Good luck with TKM, it is one of the nicer professions. The combat balance will be great to everyone, and will hopefully bring pistoleers back to what they were pre-armor and buffs.

One point for pistoleers: We are not broken (as some individuals keep implying), we have inaccurate descriptions on our specials (but using them will show everyone that they do work, just in a different manner than the description says). One of the largest issues with pistoleers is armor and buffs. We were designed to be high defence (top two defence classes are fencer and pistoleer) but low in dmg. We have a huge variety of dmg type. So in a world of solo PvE (not what the game is designed for) or PvP with high quality armor and buffs (also not the original intent of the game design), pistoleers can not out damage other professions (but a well designed template pistoleer should be able to stale mate everytime). But in a group, pistoleers still can help enormously in both PvE and PvP. As for the comparison between melee and range, there is a world of difference between them, tumbling should function in the exact same manner as Center of Being.

Datchery

Mon May 17, 2004 1:50 pm

#13

You're right, it's not 'us' that's broken, it's combat that is broken. And Rifleman (what they get +90 speed and we only get +74?)

Oh right and our specials that become worse or cease to work as you go up the skill tree. I think we have a word for this condition...oh right it's called being broken...I mean borked.

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