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Thread: my last , pvp experiance...shinson has left the arena
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shinson
Mon May 17, 2004 11:57 pm
#1
hi, never posted here before , so i guess first off ill give a little backround info, been playing since late july , quit a few months back and came back again...
currently ima mastersmuggler/master pistoleer tk 4/0/03 with some scout and medic.... always had smuggler in me since day one, and pistoleer seems (seemed) like a natural progression to go along with smuggler...
first off ive always been a big optomist with this game, telling others that get frustrated with it, (andmyself) give it time it will get better.... etc etc, and yes i must admit it has... in some ways.... i really like bein a pistoler/smuggler really dont want to give it up for the anything now... and definatly dont wanna be one of the super cool dude fotm crap, just for the sake of being god in pvp....
but tonite just kinda felt like the last straw....
i was bored so i went to mos espa , to kill stormtroopers and just run around and have some fun since i had nothing else to do...
knowing full well that id be open prey to any imp that came along, well that was fine with me figured if that happened id give em the best run for their money i could give....
well... boy was I wrong lol....
this fencer comes along and starts to attack me at which time i return the assualt.......
(we are both buffed, but unarmored...) im laying into this guy with everything i have burts runnning all the way.. keeping space between us... and well... guess you can figure the rest...
miss, miss, miss,miss 100x more..... land a last ditch or whatever... he regenerates it back fast as superman changin clothes ina phone booth...
the he says to me, which was kinda the diggin salt in the wound deal,,, "your not gonna kill me.. might aswell give up.. and you can leave" lol
well let me first say that , that was really nice of him to give me the option to just run away.... but also at the same time im like omfg this is so embarrasing.... and so his coment just enranged me so of course being the stubborn sob i am.. im like screw that im gonna kill you lol....
well i was wrong again... no damage getting thru.. nothing sticking.miss miss miss miss again... until i started taking heavy hits, i got the attitude well if i cant kill him, ill be damed if hes gonna kill me (feign death)
figured i would feign death till my tef wore off, at which time he laid every dot weapon he had on me, fire, poisen, bleeds, more poisen.. and wailing away me... all the while his girlfriend or wahtever standing next to him just giggles away lol.....
the point is i guess this is a FRIGGEN JOKE!!!! this was the most humiliating experiance ever, tho i dont blame my oppenent at all.....its just sad.... i dont really ever let a game effect me and such.. but after investing all my skill points in this CRAP!!. id at least like to be able to get a couple decent hits in from time to time.. even if i loose.. i mean come on....
i dont wanna flame the devs, dont want to be an ass, but do they even play half these proffession, or go up against the kinda **edit**, we non fotm have to deal with everyday?
yeah yeah and evryone says wait for the combat balance and I, in a way belive that may solve some issues.... but my biggest fear is we will still get the short end of the stick... maybee im wrong i hope so...
guess this is my rant, nothing really constructive here to say sorry.... im just kidna at a loss for what to do now in the game, being as i dont wanna grind holos, and killing the same crap over and over just gets well old.. and only so many credits in your account are ammusing, and one can only handle being a slice bot for so many hours a night....
i guess some people would tell me.. to jsut quit and stop crying lol, but the thing is i dont wanna quit this game i like... i wanna stick it out.. i belive it has alot of potential.... i dont even play that much anymore and stuff.... but think ill alway keep my subscription till the end, just cos i truely belive this game could be amazing someday...
one thing , stop me if im wrong, one thing id really like to see is more communication from the devs, it just appears that they are more concerned with doing the jedi's bidding and making really cool barbie makover tents.. that they forget about the little people, the non hologrinders that wanna play their chosen proffessions cos its what suits them and they dont feel the need to be jedi master/hologrinder #3453574363689
come on devs throw the lil guy a bone , makes ya look good....
feel free to flame my ass away into the next century ..........
good luck out there fellow pistoleers
JamfeFabri
Tue May 18, 2004 1:23 am
#2
heh everyones done it.... Nothing tae be ashamed of. Heh prolly the most civil rant ive read (hell most of mine back in the day were pretty nasty)....
DarthSeminole
Tue May 18, 2004 3:14 am
#3
I feel your pain. The only reason I'm competitive is that I got Combat Medic for my Christmas holo. That is sad. My "support" profession" is so much more powerful than the most iconic weapon class in the game.
Farstrider77
Tue May 18, 2004 4:09 am
#4
here is a simple trick
i gurantee you that fencer was using a center of being macro so that he is constantly centered and thus unable to be hit
thats why you were always missing
use intimidate, that cuts down his defense to 0 as well as halving his damage
S_Freelancer
Tue May 18, 2004 4:50 am
#5
i feel with you. i am a former Bounty Hunter that chose a new way in his life to become a schmuggler/pistoleer. I have a lot of experience in PVP and i can say i hope the Dev balance the Pistoleer better but we should wait for the combat revamp 
Morath360
Tue May 18, 2004 10:08 am
#6
Farstrider77 wrote:
here is a simple trick
i gurantee you that fencer was using a center of being macro so that he is constantly centered and thus unable to be hit
thats why you were always missing
use intimidate, that cuts down his defense to 0 as well as halving his damage
I am gonna have to try this. I never have since I thought with his defenses he would simply resist it..
DarthXadius
Tue May 18, 2004 10:52 am
#7
shinson wrote:hi, never posted here before , so i guess first off ill give a little backround info, been playing since late july , quit a few months back and came back again...currently im a mastersmuggler/master pistoleer tk 4/0/03 with some scout and medic.... always had smuggler in me since day one, and pistoleer seems (seemed) like a natural progression to go along with smuggler...first off ive always been a big optomist with this game, telling others that get frustrated with it, (andmyself) give it time it will get better.... etc etc, and yes i must admit it has... in some ways.... i really like bein a pistoler/smuggler really dont want to give it up for the anything now... and definatly dont wanna be one of the super cool dude fotm crap, just for the sake of being god in pvp....but tonite just kinda felt like the last straw....i was bored so i went to mos espa , to kill stormtroopers and just run around and have some fun since i had nothing else to do...knowing full well that id be open prey to any imp that came along, well that was fine with me figured if that happened id give em the best run for their money i could give....well... boy was I wrong lol....this fencer comes along and starts to attack me at which time i return the assualt.......(we are both buffed, but unarmored...) im laying into this guy with everything i have burts runnning all the way.. keeping space between us... and well... guess you can figure the rest...miss, miss, miss,miss 100x more..... land a last ditch or whatever... he regenerates it back fast as superman changin clothes ina phone booth...the he says to me, which was kinda the diggin salt in the wound deal,,, "your not gonna kill me.. might aswell give up.. and you can leave" lolwell let me first say that , that was really nice of him to give me the option to just run away.... but also at the same time im like omfg this is so embarrasing.... and so his coment just enranged me so of course being the stubborn sob i am.. im like screw that im gonna kill you lol....well i was wrong again... no damage getting thru.. nothing sticking.miss miss miss miss again... until i started taking heavy hits, i got the attitude well if i cant kill him, ill be damed if hes gonna kill me (feign death)figured i would feign death till my tef wore off, at which time he laid every dot weapon he had on me, fire, poisen, bleeds, more poisen.. and wailing away me... all the while his girlfriend or wahtever standing next to him just giggles away lol.....the point is i guess this is a FRIGGEN JOKE!!!! this was the most humiliating experiance ever, tho i dont blame my oppenent at all.....its just sad.... i dont really ever let a game effect me and such.. but after investing all my skill points in this CRAP!!. id at least like to be able to get a couple decent hits in from time to time.. even if i loose.. i mean come on....i dont wanna flame the devs, dont want to be an ass, but do they even play half these proffession, or go up against the kinda **edit**, we non fotm have to deal with everyday?yeah yeah and evryone says wait for the combat balance and I, in a way belive that may solve some issues.... but my biggest fear is we will still get the short end of the stick... maybee im wrong i hope so...guess this is my rant, nothing really constructive here to say sorry.... im just kidna at a loss for what to do now in the game, being as i dont wanna grind holos, and killing the same crap over and over just gets well old.. and only so many credits in your account are ammusing, and one can only handle being a slice bot for so many hours a night....i guess some people would tell me.. to jsut quit and stop crying lol, but the thing is i dont wanna quit this game i like... i wanna stick it out.. i belive it has alot of potential.... i dont even play that much anymore and stuff.... but think ill alway keep my subscription till the end, just cos i truely belive this game could be amazing someday...one thing , stop me if im wrong, one thing id really like to see is more communication from the devs, it just appears that they are more concerned with doing the jedi's bidding and making really cool barbie makover tents.. that they forget about the little people, the non hologrinders that wanna play their chosen proffessions cos its what suits them and they dont feel the need to be jedi master/hologrinder #3453574363689come on devs throw the lil guy a bone , makes ya look good....feel free to flame my ass away into the next century ..........good luck out there fellow pistoleers
People who have 125 in dodge and eat any of the dodge food will not be hit.
If you use intimidate on such person, theur dodge abilities are gone, and you can last ditch them into next week.
Use all your skills, and victory will be yours.
Vender: Rielig Steppes Mall, Dantooine
shinson
Tue May 18, 2004 12:13 pm
#8
just wanna say, sorry and thanx for bearing with me in advance.. just realized whata crappy and unorganized post i made in my fit of rage hehe 
shinson
Tue May 18, 2004 3:11 pm
#9
was thinking , since disarming shot, too my knowledge was useless.. (right?) why not propose to the devs to turn this into kinda of a defenses down shot (disarming?) kinda like a ranged intimidate like the suggestion to use above ^^^^ 
Metherian
Tue May 18, 2004 3:29 pm
#10
I feel your pain, Shinson.
Just the other day I had a run-in with a fencer jerk on Starsider. I drove into Anchorhead overt (I had just been scanned in Mos Espa) with the intention of visiting the Rebel Recruiter and setting myself back to covert status. As I drive into Anchorhead, I see no 'red blips' on the radar screen, so I think, "Hey, it's clear. Just gott run in and out, and I'm off."
Well, of course, SWG"s pathetic lag is in effect, so that as soon I get into town, a handful of red blips pop up on my radar screen. Being unprepared for any sort of conflict, I hop back on my bike and start moving out. At the same time, this dude named Wohen comes running out of the cantina, chasing me. As I zoom off on my swoop, I think, "Yeah, whatever pal."
I ride for about a 1000m to my house, just outside of Anchorhead, dismount and attempt to store my bike. For whatever pathetic reason, the bike doesn't store. The pathetic SWG gods are laughing at me, saying, "Unable to store item ... blah blah blah.", at which point I think, "Gee, imagine if I was just about to go into combat."
Then, as if on cue, Wohen (a.k.s. Jerko-boy) comes running up beside me. Does he attack me? Does he hit me first? No, of course not--instead, he two-hits my swoop, turning it into a flaming pile of pieces and parts. I duck into my house, to safety ... then think, but hey, "I'm a pistoleer! This is my turf!" so I hit my accuracy chef food, some brandy, etc. and rush out after him. After a few thousands MISSES later, I'm laying on the ground, getting deathblowed.
First, the fact that this jerk ran after me, over a 1000m just to blow up my bike/attack me is pretty sad. Second, the fact that I didn't even stand a chance against him is just ridiculous. I would only expect such brazen PvP griefing from a fencer--with the knowledge that he cannot be hit, what does he have to fear? What skill does he have to have? All he has to do is hit follow, lunge, and kill his target. There is no risk and no threat, and so he attempts the ludicrous because he knows he can succeed. In a MMOG, PvP of this sort is fundamentally broken and waste of time. Combined with the holo-grinding stupidity that SOE introduced, it's no wonder that people have left SWG by the hundreds. As you said, you have to wonder whether the developers at Sony even play this stupid game.
LIke you, I'm waiting for the combat rebalance. It's the ONLY thing keeping my interested in this pathetic, piece-of-crap game at the moment. But I will say this: if the rebalance does nothing for pistoleer---heck, if it doesn't fix ALL of the pathetic PvP problems with this game (armor, buffs, template stacking, etc.) I will quit this game so damned fast and not think twice about doing so.
SOEknows that they have to 'deliver' with the so-called combat rebalance ... and quite frankly, I'm betting their scared as hell. Publish 10 will either bring back a lot of players, or just serve to alienate the rest of us to the point where we finally just put our hands up in the air and say, "screw it--I quit!"
Message Edited by Metherian on 05-18-2004 03:36 PM
Metherian
Tue May 18, 2004 3:30 pm
#11
blah .... even these forums suck. (Removed double post)
Message Edited by Metherian on 05-18-2004 03:30 PM
shinson
Tue May 18, 2004 3:36 pm
#12
as a pistoleer i always go for the bike first , its the only thing in pvp i can kill................ got me an av-21 last week
Message Edited by shinson on 05-18-2004 03:37 PM
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