Pistoleer Archive
Thread: my last , pvp experiance...shinson has left the arena
but seriously it is sad, sad that the starwarsy proffessions in this game are subpar compared to otherproffessions, you can find all the meleetop proffessionsin just about any other mmo out there, if i wanted to play braveheart and go wield a big ass sword id go play something else......
im not gonna quit ever tho, im goin down with the ship, if worse comes to worse and i cant take it anymore ill just change proffessions..... been thinking of maybee doin pikeman, got a soft spot for the gimped proffessions lol
and yes pikes where in the movies!!! lando had an lva in jabbas palace, in rotj.... so i can justify that as starwarsy to me lol
Message Edited by shinson on 05-18-2004 03:46 PM
Metherian wrote:
Well, the same crap just happened to me.
I was scanned out in the field, so I run up to Anchorhead to clear my overt status. There is absolutley NOTHING on the radar mini-map. No red blips at all. So I proceed into Anchorhead and up to the cantina. Once inside of the cantina, a couple of seconds pass as I hit a lag spike, and then *bam* I hear the fight music as I enter into the cantina floor. (Nice friggin' radar functionality you have there, SOE.)
Just before I can turn around some jerk named Pringle Pringle is attacking me with a stun baton. I'm fully buffed, healing myself left and right ..... Pringle is a fencer, unbuffed, and wearing NO ARMOR whatsoever. I fire off a few shots, try to use pistol whip, suppression fire ..... not one friggin' attack hits him.
Not ONE damn shot.
He incaps me, and then let's his little lackey buddy (griefing Imps losers always travel in pairs or trios') deathblow me.
I mean, what the hell is this, SOE? I've got the best guns on the market, skills to use them, armor, and I'm fully buffed---yet some jerkoff in a speedo carrying a stun baton can incap me in two hits? And then sit there and talk all 'badass' .... like his template even requires any skills to use effectively. Sorry, that's just lame. How does this even remotely resemble the Star Wars universe?
This game has a lot to offer--it has a lot of potential---that's what people keep telling themselves, over and over. But, you know what--it's getting old. I'm tired of this crap. I'm tired of putting up with a hopelessly unbalanced PvP game that is dominated by template-stacking losers with no lives... and I know I'm not the only one. Of the eleven immediate friend of mine who bought this game, not one of them plays it any more (I'm the only one). That's eleven account (actually more, considering a couple hadmultiple accounts) gone--and my experience isonly one example.They've gone on to play CoH, Planetside, WoW beta and have no interest in ever returning to SWG. Can't say that I blame them. But what sort of server population does that leave? Ahhh, yes ... the FOTM template stacking PvP chasers who play the game for no other reason that to be 'uber'.
Now, why the hell would anyone want to stay in company like that?
And, yeah... this game is far from being "Star Wars". Apart from some loose ties to some Star Wars themes, this game is a joke compared to the moves/books. It's kind of pathetic, really, because youhave to ask yourself, "Whatare the dev's thinking?" A year after the release of this game,and it still sucks this bad? I honestly don't know if I can wait for the so-calledcombat rebalance. This game is in ruins right now, and I really don't see anyone being drawn back to it anytime soon, not with better games coming out and the whole Jedi revamp/combat rebalancetwo months away.
Ok your unconstructive whinning is getting old too. I was nice in the other thread but it is clear you're are not even trying to help. You need to get off the "Defense stacking jerks" cry. You need to adapt. The Fencer had to be using a COB macro. Try intimdate and quit worrying about healing yourself all the time. Med skills are wasted if all you are gonna do with them is heal damage.
Datchery wrote:
So morath you're saying that in order to be PvP capable a Pistoleer has to spend at LEAST the 15 extra points for novice Brawler?
Datchery wrote:
So morath you're saying that in order to be PvP capable a Pistoleer has to spend at LEAST the 15 extra points for novice Brawler? Remember chief, this is the 'PISTOLEER' forum not the Smuggler/Commando/TKA/Fencer/Swordsman/Pikeman/Brawler forum. Nobody here should be in any way expected or EVER forced to have another profession to compete with someone who also has one combat profession. The fact of the matter is that Pistoleer is ridiculously underclassed compared to any of the other professions. (possibly excluding pikeman, but only because they are equally boned) I have trust that the combat balance will at least 'shake things up' For a little while, hopefully bringing the game to some sort of real balance.
You won't find anyone who is serious about PvP who uses just one profession. Everyone finds the combination of professions that suits them best and helps them win the most in PvP. Yes, Pistoleer does suck really bad, and that's all the more reason you should be spending more points on other professions to help you in PvP. Even after the "combat revamp" you will still need to use other professions to support Pistoleer for PvP. Everyone in every other profession will also sill be using support from other professions to help them also. You can't just be a pure Pistoleer and expect to win in PvP, and you never should be able to win at PvP. PvP is about tactics, and part of those tactics is finding the best combination for kicking butt.
Well, facts are that this game is about diversity. You can complain or "Restate" as you call it till you are blue in the face but you will never convince them to change it where a single profession is disigned to compete with someone with multiple professions. Sorry but its the facts and it is right. If you choose non combat professions with pistol and expect to beat or "compete" with a battle template then you got it all wrong.
Yes this is a pistoleer forum but saying what you combine with the pistol to be successful is part of it. It is funny that I have beaten several master fencers. At least 2 of those battles were with the pistol only and I am a noob pvper.
Understand, I have been angry like you, but your thinking is off on the whole defence stacking and tunnel vision "Pistol only" Should compete complaint.
You do not need medic skills to compete in pvp successfully. In fact dont even waste the skill points if all you are going to do is heal with it. Better off using tka mediate line and get some of the defenses there in TKA.. In the majority of the battles I have been in there is a mix of people. With buffs I can count on one hand the number of times my health and action have been a problem. Its really all about preparation.
Again dont put words in my mouth. I believe pistols need help, however you see things as black and white and I do not. I see major benefits to having pistols. I have been in your shoes with my wookiee and got my butt handed to me before armor and before COB. I remember when all ranged professions kicked my but into oblivian even people at novice while I was at master. Im just saying keep it constructive and balanced.
Do you think the devs are taking notice of your rants? You are in lala land because all they will do is take one look at an unconstructive posts and move on. You lose all your credibility no matter how well you think you have been logical. You need a break..
Message Edited by Morath360 on 05-20-2004 08:10 AM
It is a bit of a dilemma. Should someone who gathers multiple combat professions have an advantage over someonewho doesn't? Yes! It only makes sense. But who is to say that I can't be a crafter with a combat professionand not be viable in combat? This system is wonderful in that you can have more than one profession, but that in of itself inbalances the PVP.
People shouldn't have to gather all the combat templates they can to make it in PVP! We still need crafters and why should crafters be stuck just making things all the time?
My above statements use crafters as an example, but this pertains to any other non combat template in the game.