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Thread: Speed Vs Critical

Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:20 am
#1


Ok so I finally got 2 guns both ADK Featherweight FWG5's


Gun1 Gun 2

Dmg 966 Dmg 966

Speed 1.94/m 1.12Speed 1.68/m 0.98

SAC 65 SAC 67

Accuracy 65 Accuracy 45

Critical slice 10% Speed Slice 12%


I tested both these guns last night on jedi missions, Gun number 1 with the critical slice I was impressed with, I see a great number of "CRITICAL" and these usually hit for 200 more damage.

Gun number 2 with the speed slice even though its meant to be quicker, I cannot notice any difference in speed between these two guns.

Thedifference is really marginal and unnoticable so if your debating weather to get a Speedor Critical slice, go with either i would say neither is going to benefit you much more than the other

Message Edited by Stecoli on 09-07-2005 04:27 AM

Rogue135
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:03 am
#2
I think that speed slices are best when a Player is still not a Master of a combat profession, once you're a Master Pistoleer (or whatever) your speed mods are usually enough to make the speed slices unnoticable.



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BloodMonk
Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:25 am
#3

I think speed makes no difference when you get close to 1s mod. speed....you were at 1.12 so that will prolly explain why you didn't notice much.


mmm btw however did you get +218 in speed?


mm and what was the slicing speedcap on pistols again?




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Rogue135
Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:26 am
#4




BloodMonk wrote:

mm and what was the slicing speedcap on pistols again?





1.73 if I recall correctly... I may be mistaken, so don't quote me.



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Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:39 am
#5
I wrote the speed before 1.94 and the modified speed after 1.12 sorry i should have made it a little clearer.
1.94 (Standard Speed of the gun) 1.12 (Gun when I equip it )

Message Edited by Stecoli on 09-07-2005 06:40 AM

BloodMonk
Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:58 am
#6

yes but to lower your mod speed to 1.12 you still need +218 in pistol+ranged speed....





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Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:00 am
#7

No im afraid your incorrect .



BloodMonk
Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:02 am
#8

I'm not, math does not lie


to get a 1.94s pistol down to 1.12s you need +218 speed



btw how did you brake the speedcap on the 2nd?

Message Edited by BloodMonk on 09-07-2005 07:05 AM



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Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:06 am
#9

damit your so dense please stop before you embarrass yourself.


Do you need me to provide screenshots to make you feel small and prove you wrong.


BloodMonk
Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:40 am
#10

yup must be a coincidence my speed calc works correct for everyone but you....


and yes please do post pics, and do explain how you got below the speedcap




has 105 speed + 19 in speed tapes

Message Edited by BloodMonk on 09-07-2005 08:44 AM



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Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:06 am
#11

It says his attack speed is 1.91 Modified 1.15


I said mines 1.94 modified 1.12 and 1.68 modified 0.97


Are you completely retarded or can you just not read?


BloodMonk
Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:14 am
#12

"It says his attack speed is 1.91 Modified 1.15


I said mines 1.94 modified 1.12 and 1.68 modified 0.97"



well as you seem to like insults....did they repeatedly drop you on your head in the orphanage?



you might notice your pistol speed is HIGHER then his and you modded speed is LOWER


which is why I say the OTHER guy must have +124 speed.....as you spread is WIDER logically your speedmodmust be HIGHER


now as the MOD SPEED CALCULATION is logarithmic (meaning you get more deminishing returns the higher your speedmod gets) that mean your spead has to be A LOT higher 218 TO BE EXACT.




I have the impression you're so busy throwing insult that you have absolutely no clue what we're talking about.....don't try to beat someone on numbers while he has the exact speed formula in a spreadsheet, in front of his nose.....you'll only make an arse of yourself



but like you yourseld proposed, please post PICS of your PISTOLS and you CHARACTER SHEET, and inform us what EXPLOIT you used to break the SPEED CAP



ps: I added words in caps so you might understand me for once


Message Edited by BloodMonk on 09-07-2005 09:15 AM



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Stecoli
Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:16 am
#13

Sorry but your calculations are totally wrong , you know very little if you think thats correct.


ill post screenshots and prove to everyone your retarded.


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