Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Fan Shot/Stopping shot vs. Last Ditch
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Everitt_Cage
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:32 pm
#1
Hey everybody. Heres my question: Which is more powerful, your fanshot/stopping shot or the last ditch? First let me address something. It seems many hold the Fanshot to be the most powerful pistoleer sp. In guide to grinding pistoleer at the top of every page it says ur first priority should be getting fanshot. Well no matter how many people agree with that, fanshot simply doesnt do as much damage as stopping shot for me. So the real question for me is between stopping shot and last ditch. And if last ditch IS better, is it THAT much better to have to get the whole line in smuggler(and for that matter all the nonsense skills u have to learn jus tto get novice smuggler like buisiness and such)?
One final quesiton. Can somone explain to me exactly what feign death is, does, and how useful it is? The situations you use it in and how its that helpful? Thanks,
EC
Everitt_Cage
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:34 pm
#2
Oh and just for the record in regards to what i said about fanshot vs stopping shot, im a master pistoleer and a desperado, so i have all the mods which might affect one or the others potential damage.
SharkBoy007
Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:50 pm
#3
Everitt_Cage wrote:
Hey everybody. Heres my question: Which is more powerful, your fanshot/stopping shot or the last ditch? First let me address something. It seems many hold the Fanshot to be the most powerful pistoleer sp. In guide to grinding pistoleer at the top of every page it says ur first priority should be getting fanshot. Well no matter how many people agree with that, fanshot simply doesnt do as much damage as stopping shot for me. So the real question for me is between stopping shot and last ditch. And if last ditch IS better, is it THAT much better to have to get the whole line in smuggler(and for that matter all the nonsense skills u have to learn jus tto get novice smuggler like buisiness and such)?
One final quesiton. Can somone explain to me exactly what feign death is, does, and how useful it is? The situations you use it in and how its that helpful? Thanks,
EC
OK, I'm not sure about that whole vs. thing. I, too, have noticed that stopping shot is far better than fan shot, which is odd, since everyone was telling me how great fan shot was
As for smuggler, that has been changed. You only need to get the Unarmed tree in brawler, and the pistols line in marksman, plus whatever amount of pistol xp you need for Novice Smuggler (I think it's 40k, but I could be wrong).
Mox Shehalis
Kevie
Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:04 pm
#4
fanshot has a 4x damage modifier but has a cone of effect, so everything within a 20* cone of your target will also be hit
stopping shot has a 5x damage modifier but a HUGE delay, so it's only more useful with your speed capped
last ditch has a 6x modifier, has a chance to stun, and has the same delay that stopping shot has so last ditch is infinitely better than stopping shot
and feign death will just incap yourself, but noone or nothing can deathblow you
IxussFlamethrowerSpeciali
Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:14 pm
#5
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Select the type of gun.
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KoD-Maddy
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:24 pm
#6
I always use Stopshot and I do about 1.5 - 2k of damage in pve with about 80% + going in health. I barely almost never have it hit mind. with fan shot it only does about 1k-1.2k if that per shot.
MisterWizard
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:54 pm
#7
As a pistoleer, there are only four (possibly five) specials you will use. Forgive me if my slash commands are a bit off...
- /healthShot2 - best single-pool attack
- /stoppingShot - best DPS, random damage pool; in some cases with slower weapons, replace with /doubleTap
- /fanShot - best DPS + AOE (cone) attack, random damage pool
- /pistolMeleeDefense1 - melee knockdown, random damage pool
If you also have smuggler, it changes slightly:
- /healthShot2 - best single-pool attack
- /lastDitch - best DPS, random damage pool; in some cases with slower weapons, replace with /doubleTap
- /fanShot - best DPS + AOE (cone) attack, random damage pool
- /lowBlow - ranged knockdown, random damage pool; substitute with /pistolMeleeDefense1 (melee knockdown, random damage pool) if you like a different animation
I've toyed with /pointBlankArea1 but found it is rarely worth it, unless I want to kill a swarm of durnis around me in one take.
Darth-Kevlar
Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:13 pm
#8
I have used both, there isn't really that much diference between the two. Last ditch makes more damage but personally I don't think that the attack per si is worth the skill points you need to get it unless you plan going smugler all the line to get slices ( a very interesting income source)
Kevie
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:17 pm
#9
there is no point in a pistoleer's life that he or she would want to or ever should use double tap
because of the delay, kip up shot and rollshot do more dps unless your speed is capped, when stopping shot would do more damage anyways
Ryngs
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:07 am
#10
Last ditch is the best thing that has happened to me in PvP. when i PvP i start with my geo eye shot (usually it does not work). i then use last ditch with the geo, most of the time this is enough. but in the off chance those fail (along with other tactics such as DOTs etc.) last ditch with a launcher pistol is unstoppable (dont like to use LP unless last resort cause sometimes it will lag me so bad i get whuped). It can take down an "uber 1337" melee defense stacker in literally seconds, not to mention how wonderful it is on a turret.
getting back to the point...most people say speed is an issue with this attack but it really isnt. with a mediocre speed pistol (say 3.0 or lower) you will have no problem reaching cap so long as your skill mods are capped. It is definately worth the additional SP for that extra couple hundo dmg.
Ryngs
getting back to the point...most people say speed is an issue with this attack but it really isnt. with a mediocre speed pistol (say 3.0 or lower) you will have no problem reaching cap so long as your skill mods are capped. It is definately worth the additional SP for that extra couple hundo dmg.
Ryngs
Carly
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:16 am
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there is no doubt about this.. last ditch is the best special ever. it alone is worth all the SPs for the smuggler line, and you also get tons of other useful stuff. like the guy above me said, it destroys people literally in seconds 
. my favourite thing to do is-
panic shot
5x intimidate
torso shot with my uber de-10 for a 300+ dmg fire tick
spam last ditch
sad..
. my favourite thing to do is-panic shot
5x intimidate
torso shot with my uber de-10 for a 300+ dmg fire tick
spam last ditch
sad..
Carly
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:18 am
#12
I wont even say anything about low blow + last ditch in PVE. riflemen will cancel their accounts when they see your damage
MachineZed
Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:45 am
#13
Everitt_Cage wrote:
Oh and just for the record in regards to what i said about fanshot vs stopping shot, im a master pistoleer and a desperado, so i have all the mods which might affect one or the others potential damage.
That is your answer, most of the guides are only considering you are grinding your way up Pistoleer (no that you are already a Desperado). That is where Fanshot exels. Since you are speed capped Desperado/Pistoleer yes Stopping shot is much better DPS, but if you choose to do Pistoleer first the Fanshot has a lower delay, allowing you to fire it faster than Stopping shot, making it a better grinding shot. I am not even metioning the Cone AOE.
If you are just a Pistoleer, the Fanshot is the best special highest DPS, but once you add in the Speed from BH or Specials from Smuggler that changes dramatically.
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