Pistoleer Archive

evenign all, well im thinking jsut about all u pistoleers, r a lot a little girl scouts, cryign because, your class, doesnt , campare to BH in pvp, there not supose too, u shot handguns big deal, u run around shottignthings close thats the life u have chosen, so shut up about it , BH it a lifestyle, not a pvp ganking toon, if pll r usign it as such, so be it reset and go BH , but to ask and {get by the way }

],%&**$$#@, u pll have destroyed BH, i hope i see the day u pistol pushers get , smoked, by the NB, then u will be crying, ur class is a secondary class get over it , ps love ya

What? I didn't understand a single thing in that whole post.

But from what i derive from the title of the post, I don't agree. As a pistoleer, I have taken down some bounty hunters, but then again, I don't stand without something to hide behind. It's funny when they go around the corner and I pistol whip them. It usually results in a win.

that is funny why are you here, whining in a pistoleer forum that pistoleer messed up bh , well you prolly were one of the ones that messed up ch, btw what do you mean bh is messed up anyways, it looks fine to me did they change something? bh are the biggest whiners in the game

heres a simple idea, just go both ways master pistoleer, and master the pistol tree in BH. BAM no more whiners.

But from what i derive from the title of the post, I don't agree. As a pistoleer, I have taken down some bounty hunters, but then again, I don't stand without something to hide behind. It's funny when they go around the corner and I pistol whip them. It usually results in a win.

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So what? You want to win against a BH every time? I don't understand why everyone keeps screaming nerf for BH's.

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tangosierra wrote:

evenign all, well im thinking jsut about all u pistoleers, r a lot a little girl scouts, cryign because, your class, doesnt , campare to BH in pvp, there not supose too, u shot handguns big deal, u run around shottignthings close thats the life u have chosen, so shut up about it , BH it a lifestyle, not a pvp ganking toon, if pll r usign it as such, so be it reset and go BH , but to ask and {get by the way }

],%&**$$#@, u pll have destroyed BH, i hope i see the day u pistol pushers get , smoked, by the NB, then u will be crying, ur class is a secondary class get over it , ps love ya

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You, sir, are hilarious. Thank you for making my day.

Im really sad to see these posts by noob BH, it really wrecks it for all of us. But something of it is true, of that you can read anyway.

BH really took a beating in the patch, seems they want us to be pistoleer...Hope you get your twirly moves, god knows they wont fix anything first.

err ok i have one question about this... why would you come to the forum and tell us we are whining when nothing of the sort has gone on in the past few days? second of all as smuggler/pistoleer i will personally smoke any bh in pvp.

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SmokingSmurf wrote:

Im really sad to see these posts by noob BH, it really wrecks it for all of us. But something of it is true, of that you can read anyway.

BH really took a beating in the patch, seems they want us to be pistoleer...Hope you get your twirly moves, god knows they wont fix anything first.

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Isnt the same nerf you all are complaining about the KD nerf that affected all the other Professions with KD? Its the same for everyone basically. Yes our KD cost less than yours but remeber we cant pull off the massive damage in one hit that most of the other professions can. Thats our trade off for relative low damage.

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NergalMS wrote:

Isnt the same nerf you all are complaining about the KD nerf that affected all the other Professions with KD? Its the same for everyone basically. Yes our KD cost less than yours but remeber we cant pull off the massive damage in one hit that most of the other professions can. Thats our trade off for relative low damage.

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Pistolwhip is also melee, unlike bounty hunter knockdowns, so it should cost less.

Threequestions for you Caelrie:

1) Does the TKA knockdown cost less because it is melee?

2) Isn't your AoE Knockdown ranged?

3) If so, by your own logic,shouldn't it cost as much as a carbineer/bounty hunter ranged knockdown instead of the reported 100 or so action that it cost?

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter

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Chahu wrote:

Threequestions for you Caelrie:

1) Does the TKA knockdown cost less because it is melee?

2) Isn't your AoE Knockdown ranged?

3) If so, by your own logic,shouldn't it cost as much as a carbineer/bounty hunter ranged knockdown instead of the reported 100 or so action that it cost?

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter

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I know I am not who this was directed to but maybe I can answer some of the questions.
In order to get the same affect as knocking someone down with a blunt object but with your fist instead, it takes alot more physical effort. Therefore it should by simple physics take less out of you to assist your knocking someone down with a blunt object. The VK problem is something else altogether.

As far as everything I have seen our AoE knockdown is not actually ours but is the effect that should be applied to the top Carbineer KD. This will be corrected and thus you will all get a little of the nerf you want but then it again it will only be a fix.

Why should other firearm specials cost more than a pistol special? Simple a pistol is about 2 pounds and can be aimed in a general area rather easily, A rifle weights alot more which requires more physical excertion to hold, aim and fight the recoil. Same goes for heavy weapons. But on the plus side a rifle will do much more damage and will far more accurate from a range t5han a pistol wielded by someone with equal skill.

A real martial artist can leg sweep someone with about as much physical effort that you could knock them down with a pistol. Remember...it is a pistol not a club. But who cares. We arent talking reality here Nergal. We are talking a game. My question still stands...if you are gonna defend your knockdown cost being so low because it is a melee attack vs ranged then why does the TKA knockdown cost so much more?

Iwas one of the few bounty hunters that felt a nerf for knockdown was required. I will be the first to admit it makes things way to easy when you can spam knockdown in either PvP or PvE. So, when SOE said they were increasing the cost to stop it from being spamed I supported the devs. I would have used a timer instead but I still supported the HAM nerf.

Before they nerfed my fireknockdown it cost me 83 HAM to knock the mob down. At 83 HAM I could spam it enough to buy time for my teammates to kill the big nasty critter or totally destroy someone in PvP. Now my fireknockdown cost me 233. Great! Problem solved! I can no longer spam it.

But a new problem arises. They fixed me and from what I have heard from carbineers and TKAs their cost are high enough now also that they can no longer spam. But, you pistoleers can still spam pistolwhip. Some of you, not saying you are, but some of you are complaining that it cost you 100 action to use it now. Hmmm...now unless my math is wrong that is a total of 17 points more then I used to spend on my knockdown which was totally spamable. Sure I would be out of action at the end of the fight but who cared. The mob/player I was fighting was dead/incapped.

So basically what has happened is SOE has taken spamable knockdown away from every class except the pistoleers which wasnt their stated objective. As I see it one of two things are gonna happen. Either SOE will wise up and restore old cost and add a timer to knockdown or they will nerf you guys more by increasing your cost so you cant spam it. If neither of those options take place you will see either a bunch of people quiting the game or a bunch of people becoming pistoleers since you guys dominate PvP/PvE.

Chahu Melhar

Intrepid Bounty Hunter