Pistoleer Archive
Thread: OMG...Dizzy is my downfall
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trajen2
Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:09 am
#1
As pistoleers I'm sure you all have encountered the Dizzy/KD combo. Generally, once this happens, you're done...at least I am.
I am a Doc/Pistoleer so I can heal the dizzy state but when I am on the ground I can't do anything. I am a pro "kiter" so usaully stay out of KD/Dizzy range but once i get within the TKMs unrealistic dizzy or KD range, I'm done.
So tell me, what do you use for KD or Dizzy defense? I know there are some foods out there but I am generally hopped up on brandy and canape . . . what is your experience. ..
Inat
RBN
IlychUlyanov
Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:59 am
#2
Make a macro that spams stand and /healstate it should get back up on your feet in no time, or at least long enough to let you heal
KruxTrancid
Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:03 am
#3
If you are a doctor and can heal the dizzy state then make a macro with the following 2 lines:
/stand;
/healstate dizzy;
Put the macro on your toolbar and when you get knocked down and dizzied then start clicking (or pressing the F key of) the macro. It will make you stand for a split second and heal the state, then fall over again. If you keep pressing it though, you will stand up the second time. Since you won't be dizzy anymore then the /healstate won't do anything.
slim151
Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:32 am
#4
One thing people dont realize is that you can actually get up rather quickly. I find switching pistols almost ALWAYS allows me to stand right back up with no trouble whatsoever. Also having some melee either fencor or pistoleer can almost entirely nulify dizzy/kd effects. and if you do get kd you have a HIGH chance of standing right back up without getting hit. Works pretty effectively.
I suggest picking up the fencer line 0400 or even 4400 if you can. an extra 54 to ranged and melee defense and an extra 50 to defense vs kd AND defense vs posture change
I suggest picking up the fencer line 0400 or even 4400 if you can. an extra 54 to ranged and melee defense and an extra 50 to defense vs kd AND defense vs posture change
trajen2
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:02 am
#6
I have the /stand; /healstate macro on my tool bar. This doesnt work cuz if you are dizzy, posture changes make you fall back down. Plus is the guy is spamming dizzy then it doenst work very well. I like the idea of kip up shot. . .i'll have to try that. . .
Inat
RBN
Pagus
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:07 pm
#7
I've seen that a lot when I just hit the up arrow to stand. However actually typing in /stand seems to cut down on continuously falling down.
trajen2 wrote:
If you are still dizzy when you try to stand you get "you're so dizzy you fall down" . . . i THINK although I don't know cuz I've never been a brawler is that they spam a dizzy attack along with whatever else they use. I have foudn pistoleer to be VERY effective against TKMs and most other bralwer profs (Except Jedi) as long as they dont get a dizzy/kd. . .
Inat
RBN
ViolentAngel
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:32 pm
#8
STOP SPAMMING /STAND!
Dizzy only has achance to make you fall down when you change posture. Sometimes you can get up, but if you hit /stand again, chance will put you back on your arse again. Just tap stand, wait to see if you fall, then try again. Don't spam it. Swordsmen can Dizzy and PD you with Hit3, or Area3, but there is less of a chance it will dizzy you. Same tactics apply.
So actuallly, the guy that types /stand instead of spamming his fkeys actually is closer to the truth. As for Kip-Up Shot? I haven't tried that, but I imagine that if you spam it, you'll fall down just the same. Just take it steady.
Isn't it nice to have aMaster Brawler looking out for you? 
trajen2
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:41 pm
#9
ViolentAngel wrote:
STOP SPAMMING /STAND!
Dizzy only has achance to make you fall down when you change posture. Sometimes you can get up, but if you hit /stand again, chance will put you back on your arse again. Just tap stand, wait to see if you fall, then try again. Don't spam it. Swordsmen can Dizzy and PD you with Hit3, or Area3, but there is less of a chance it will dizzy you. Same tactics apply.
So actuallly, the guy that types /stand instead of spamming his fkeys actually is closer to the truth. As for Kip-Up Shot? I haven't tried that, but I imagine that if you spam it, you'll fall down just the same. Just take it steady.
Isn't it nice to have aMaster Brawler looking out for you?
Yes It is nice to have a brawler respond! I used to type /stand to see if it would work and then do a quikc /healstate but then I got macro-crazy and turned it into a hotkey. . .and come to think about it, I have had less luck using the macro.
Thanks for the advice. . .oh I was browsing the swgcraft.com to look into Ithorian Mist which provides defense vs. dizzy. I think I'll give that a shot. .
thanks
Inat
RBN
LorenzoMh
Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:35 pm
#10
BE-enhanced thakitillo can give you +100 resist vs. KD. Then you only have to watch out for the "lunge" specials that cause posture down.
Ackis
Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:02 pm
#11
Randonb wrote:
I don't think Kip Up Shot can make you stand back up from Knockdown, unless it was stealth buffed recently. Let me know what you find.
I know Dilune, myself, and some Pistoleers had been asking for something like that to be applied to Kip Up Shot, but beyond that I haven't heard anything about it.
I was told that when doing kip up, you don't have to go through the roll modifiers. /shrug
Dracovious
Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:48 pm
#12
I'm a Triple Master and I rarely have problems getting back up with Dizzy, even though the NS Rancors are a bit nasty with it. They get me every now and then.
RandomSHO
Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:57 pm
#13
your best bet is to just not get dizzied in the first place. if you go up into fencer, you can really buff up your state defenses. master pistoleer/fencer 0/4/4/0 has these defenses...
Defense Vs. Dizzy +80
Defense Vs. Knockdown +100
Defense Vs. Posture Change +70
Defense Vs. Blind +80
Dodge +195 (though nothing over +125 matters)
Melee Defense +67
Also, your center of being macro could run for about 25 seconds at a time. so, some good thatkillo,a CoB macro running, and you will be a very hard pistoleer to hit. It will also make your chances much better that you wont get struck with a Dizzy/KD move.
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