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Thread: Master Pistol/MBH...where to put the rest of the points?
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Lotussutol
Tue May 03, 2005 8:33 am
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The title says it all...I was a Master Pistol/MBH/Novice Medic pre CU and now I have extra points and I dropped novice medic...I am thinking about putting it in smuggler...I can't decide if I should go 4000 for last ditch or 0040 for FD...what do you think?
NayrTreppel
Tue May 03, 2005 9:11 am
#3
I would go up Squad Leader 0/4/0/4. You get nice general speed, accuracy, and defense.
Lotussutol
Tue May 03, 2005 10:15 am
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NayrTreppel wrote:
I would go up Squad Leader 0/4/0/4. You get nice general speed, accuracy, and defense.
Nice call...I might have to look into that!
Nifty
Tue May 03, 2005 10:38 am
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NayrTreppel wrote:
I would go up Squad Leader 0/4/0/4. You get nice general speed, accuracy, and defense.
Excellent call for non-medic template! Before I had decided to try a line of CM with my left over points, I looked at 4/4/0/0 rifles, and the SL has 15 less general accuracy, is even in ranged defense, wins by 15 in speed, and a whopping 50 points in melee defense over the rifles leftovers. Plus, your group will appreciate the +25 group ranged defense.
If CM doesn't work out for me, I think the SL might be the way to go. 
Thanks for reminding me about that prof!
Thanks for reminding me about that prof!
EZDude
Tue May 03, 2005 11:50 am
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This post raises a very good question. I have been going over several different scenarios myself. I am a Master BH/Pistols also.
One additional thing to consider is that you can use any special with any weapon now. For example, you can use the conceal shot from the rifles tree when shooting with a pistol. So, you can take a look at the other forums (or try it out yourself) and see what other specials from, say the carbineer or rifle trees, and see if there are any good specials that will compliment your fighting style.
I personally have added master scout. I know that it doesn't help my combat skills, but the added harvesting helps me out. Also, you get nice bonuses to mask scent and terrain neg.
I hope this helps some.
Uthyr
Tue May 03, 2005 1:17 pm
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I've been struggling with this same question lately. I'm a MP/MBH and have been trying to figure out where to best spend the leftover points. It's a toss-up for me between some rifle skills and Medic 0440 at the moment. I hadn't considered SL--I may give that some thought. I do really like the ability to use multiple bacta stims though--I wonder if it more than compensates for the extra melee defenses that SL would give me...
Nifty
Tue May 03, 2005 1:45 pm
#8
Unfortunately, until we see those actual logarithmic formulae, we won't truly know if it's better to have the healing powers or the extra defenses.
Using a pistol with 0/4/0/4 SL vs 0/4/0/0 CM the defense differences are (this is pistol + general)
accur 230 vs 200
speed 120 vs 105
melee 270 vs 235
ranged 285 vs 250
I'll have just +15 healing efficiency which might not offset the defenses, but I'll have +75 med warfare and advanced healthpoison and improved health fire which should offset the acc/spd. Alternatively, if I go the 4/0/0/0 CM route, I'll have +65 healing efficiency plus advanced bacta action, which should offset the defenses.
The more I look at everything, the more I think there is really no best way to use those 52 skill points after MP/MBH. It just comes down to playstyle.
edit: Uthyr, I suggest you look at medic 0/4/0/0 and cm 4/0/0/0 vs medic 0/4/4/0. It will cost you 6 extra skill points (to pick up novice CM), but the healing efficiency mods are far better and you get advanced spray and shot, plus you'll get a bit more defense than pure medic. If you're not FS skilling, it might be a better option for the healing route.
Message Edited by Nifty on 05-03-2005 03:48 PM
Pug
Tue May 03, 2005 3:15 pm
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These are all good templates and this is a good discussion. Keep it up.
Personally, I went to Smuggler 4xxx so that I could utilize Improved Panic Shot and Last Ditch when hunting Jedi. Last Ditch can be a life saver if you're about to catch a dirt nap.
yoda1791
Tue May 03, 2005 5:01 pm
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i was using those sl skills but since i have time to respec I switch it over carb x44x. the ability to kd, snare, and root has been amazing. also getting 3 good dmg attacks from the carb line was really good too. Also you still gain defenses and speed, so the loss from sl to carb isn't a dramatic one.
Uthyr
Tue May 03, 2005 5:59 pm
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Nifty wrote:
edit: Uthyr, I suggest you look at medic 0/4/0/0 and cm 4/0/0/0 vs medic 0/4/4/0. It will cost you 6 extra skill points (to pick up novice CM), but the healing efficiency mods are far better and you get advanced spray and shot, plus you'll get a bit more defense than pure medic. If you're not FS skilling, it might be a better option for the healing route.
Thanks very much, Nifty, that template had never even occurred to me (I had never considered that you only need a single line of Medic to get to CM)! I just spec'd it out, and I have too many points tied up in FS skills to do that whole line, but even with just CM 2000 it looks like a much better template than Medic 0440. Now the question is whether those two skill boxes are the best ones to pick up in CM...it's a question of whether Healing Efficiency is more important than Medical Warfare Efficiency. I know this is starting to get off-forum, but do you have any thoughts about that?
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