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Obviously bodyshot 3 is more useful if it has about the same dmg/dlay bonus/penalty. Can anyone with both of these attest to which does the most pure damage and by how much? I accidentally trained grips and stances when I really wanted to do marksmenship first =(. But since I've just blown that xp, wondering if I should continue in the line, or leave it at first lvl to be the last one I fill. If doubletap is better dmg with faster firing than bodyshot 3 I can deal with that. Otherwise I guess I am sol.

To tell you the truth bodyshot3 is a joke. It will BARELY hit harder than bodyshot2 and it takes up alot more HAM. Double tap is a good shot, u can easily spam it. Fanshot is the way to go though. It does good damage and fires pretty fast.

I don't have hard numbers on the delays of either, but it definitely seems that DT fires faster. I also have loose parses that support that theory. As for dmg, BS3 does 2.5x as much as a normal shot. DT does 3.0x as much as a normal shot. So DT seems to deal more dmg/sec but across random pools. The HAM cost of DT is also less than BS3.

As for the BS3 vs BS2 argument, I still prefer BS3 but I think I'm the only person here who does. It uses marginally more HAM for me (4 more points of action and 0 more H or M) and takes less shots to do roughly the same DPS as BS2. In my opinion if there are 2 moves that deal the same DPS I'd prefer the one that uses less shots because then I can spam more and destroy my pistol less. With the speed of my pistols and the rate of my play I'm burning through them quite quickly.

My quick tests showed BS2 >= BS3.

Double tap does a little more damage than BS3 per hit, but fires faster, and hits a random HAM bar.

Wow thats disapointing, after so much work to get its useless? Should have done the stance tree first.

Targetting a specific pool isn't as important at the higher ranges of proficiency though. When you have a fast pistol and a high pistol speed, you can fire fast enough that even if you're not hitting the same pool you'll hit the desired pool enough times that it will accumulate quickly (health pool is especially good for this). Having tried both bodyshot 3 and doubletap, i'd probably go with the doubletap mainly because the damage is close, but the HAM and speed cost is far less on the doubletap.

Actually Body Shot 3 isn't -too- terrible. It's a bit faster than Stopping Shot, deals about 50% the damage, but it focuses on a single pool. Since you don't have to worry about pummelling the mind/action bars, it surprisingly becomes a little better than Stopping Shot. Sure you don't get the impressive massive numbers to show off, but overall it's actually a little faster if you solo or hunt in a small group. Since you can hit different bars, the average damage of a random shot is effectively 33% of what you're dealing, since it can potentially be spread 3 ways, thus the 50%damage of the BS3 isn't really that bad since it focuses 100% of its damage onone bar.

It's more difficult to compare BS3 with Double Tap/Fan Shot though, so I won't bother till I get more testing in.

I found double tap to do about 50-100 more damage than bodyshot 3 using a scout blaster on non-armoured mobs. Now i have stopping shot, damage has risen dramatically. I think the whole pistol tactics is a waste of xp so far. Pistols grips seemsto givemuchbetter results per level.

What's the multiplier on kipup/roll/dive ? Those fire pretty fast and I do 400+ dmg on those. Definitely more dmg than bodyshot2.

Does DoubleTap hit a random pool? I can almost afford that, but have enough already for a 1st level box. Should I wait for DoubleTap?

I am just a novice pistoleer as well. When I hunt alone i use BS's and bleeds to kill things, but whenever i'm in a group, large or small, I use Roll Shot consistantly because its the most damaging shot I have right now. Saps the exp out of anything . At the tusken fort in a group of 20 or so, My skill-less self can take maybe close to half the exp per Tusken Raider just using roll shot. Of course this only works when you arent being attacked, but a quick warning shot will fix that every time.

The BS's and bleeds always work better for me alone, but the Roll Shot works best in a group, until i get Stopping or Fan anyways. It doesn't necessarily kill any mob faster, but it steals more exp for ya.

I use rollshot alot too. If doubletap does the same dmg as rollshot I'll be sorely disapointed.

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Neclonmite wrote:
What's the multiplier on kipup/roll/dive ? Those fire pretty fast and I do 400+ dmg on those. Definitely more dmg than bodyshot2.

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Roll, Dive, Kip all do 2.5x regular damage.