Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Last Ditch vs. Eye Shot in PVP
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Shazeen
Sun Sep 28, 2003 5:31 pm
#1
Master_Pistoleer wrote:
yea but its bugged all it does it make it so that they cant attack for 10 secs if they dont get attacked. its only really good if you are being chased by a load of creaures and want to take one out at a time.
Its not bugged, it was nerfed to intentionally do that in publish 7. Runesabre said they would revisit the change later on, but naturally they never did. With that being said, it still does have its uses:
- Panic Shot + Intimidate is absolutely great. Delay them and then spam intimidate until your 10 seconds is up, and now they are going to be doing a lot less damage to you for the duration of the fight.
- Panic Shot + Heals is also pretty good. Provides the covering fire you need to heal your HAM up or get rid of those DOTs.
- Panic Shot against multiple opponents allows you to turn the fight into a brief 1on1 for ten seconds.
It can still be worthwhile for sure, just not like it use to be. Still, it would be nice if they improved it sometime soon.
garyttu
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:14 am
#2
I am one of the MPistoleer/BHPistol4/Dirty 4 templates...
Which shot is better for PVP: Last Ditch or Eyeshot and why?
WesBelden
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:29 am
#3
For the majority of cases, eyeshot is better. Why? well, for a start mind can't be healed anywhere near aswell as Health and Action (blue milk being your only real option);last ditch does random HAM damage and fires a lot slower than eyeshot (although with your template, it may be at the speed cap anyway).
RuytooBasgar
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:01 am
#4
Speed is not the issue. With that template, your speed capped no mater what pistol you use (I have a DE 10 with 3.9 speed and I can still fire Last Ditch at the cap with it). Here's what I would do:
Person is Buffed and Armored: Eyeshot (Last ditch won't do enough damage to any one pool in this instance.)
Person is Buffed/Unarmored but is a Defense Stacker of Melee Profession: Eyeshot (because of there high defenses, Last Ditch won't do much)
Person is Buffed/Unarmored and Not a Defense Stacker or Melee Profession: Last Ditch (there ranged defense will be down enough to where you can decimate them fast.)
Person is Unbuffed/Armored or Unarmored: Last Ditch (2 to 4 hits and there toast)
If the person at any time heals when your using Last Ditch, immediatly change to Eyeshot. Last Ditch is useless against someone with decent medic skills.
I usually try /aim then /lowblow a couple of times to try and kd the person before I start spaming those. Gives you a better chance at wining.
Also, it never hurts (you anyway) to throw on a Torso Shot to start a burn especially if you are gonna use Last Ditch. It will help tremendously.
Hope this helps! 
Message Edited by RuytooBasgar on 09-15-2004 12:07 PM
Avair
Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:58 am
#5
I don't quite get this logic. Assuming I'm a Gunslinger template (MPistol, BH 0.0.4.0, Smuggler 0.0.4.0), my accuracy is already very high.The problem isn't that I can't land a lowblow, its that the knockdown effect doesn't stick. Unless there is somthing I'm not aware of, does high accuracy defeat high defense vs. State Effects?
RuytooBasgar wrote:
I usually try /aim then /lowblow a couple of times to try and kd the person before I start spaming those. Gives you a better chance at wining.
iapigg
Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:07 pm
#6
always use last dicth first its stuns them so u can actually hit a def stacker
RuytooBasgar
Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:04 pm
#8
No, just because it attacks the mind doesn't make it the only attack good for PvP.
Jeterb
Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:43 pm
#9
You're right Ruytoo but in most cases it is, like you listed above. I rarely use anything else but i DO like to hit with some different bleeds and torsoshot to be really mean from time to time!
RuytooBasgar
Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:48 pm
#10
Hehe yeah I always like to use at least Torso Shot. Some people freak out when you set them on fire for some reason. 
Master_Pistoleer
Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:57 pm
#11
when ur against tkm's use last ditch to stun them so they cant use COB. this is really the only thing that will make a pistoleer miss.
RebRifle
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:03 pm
#12
I am not a pistoleer nor have ever been but isn't there an attack that delays an attack?
Cassinko
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:16 pm
#13
RebRifle wrote:
I am not a pistoleer nor have ever been but isn't there an attack that delays an attack?
yeah there is, its smuggler Delay shot, AoE warcry type move...
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