Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Last Ditch vs. Eye Shot in PVP
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Ubesane
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:04 pm
#14
Cassinko wrote:
RebRifle wrote:
I am not a pistoleer nor have ever been but isn't there an attack that delays an attack?
yeah there is, its smuggler Delay shot, AoE warcry type move...
Actually, it is called panic shot.
Ubesane
Shazeen
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:31 pm
#15
Master_Pistoleer wrote:
yea but its bugged all it does it make it so that they cant attack for 10 secs if they dont get attacked. its only really good if you are being chased by a load of creaures and want to take one out at a time.
Its not bugged, it was nerfed to intentionally do that in publish 7. Runesabre said they would revisit the change later on, but naturally they never did. With that being said, it still does have its uses:
- Panic Shot + Intimidate is absolutely great. Delay them and then spam intimidate until your 10 seconds is up, and now they are going to be doing a lot less damage to you for the duration of the fight.
- Panic Shot + Heals is also pretty good. Provides the covering fire you need to heal your HAM up or get rid of those DOTs.
- Panic Shot against multiple opponents allows you to turn the fight into a brief 1on1 for ten seconds.
It can still be worthwhile for sure, just not like it use to be. Still, it would be nice if they improved it sometime soon.
alucard82
Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:11 pm
#16
Last Ditch them before you do anyhting. THat way they are stunned and their defenses are cut by 50%. Then eyeshot or lastditch according to whether or not they can heal themselves. If its a doc jsut spam eyeshot, but make sure u use /intimidate along with last ditch so they cant do any damage to you and you cut their defenses in half, then i would suggest just eyeshooting them (less they are jedi then i would use last ditch) so u dont wait to see if they heal
Cassinko
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:09 pm
#17
fixed, heh
Ubesane wrote:
Cassinko wrote:
RebRifle wrote:
I am not a pistoleer nor have ever been but isn't there an attack that delays an attack?
yeah there is, its A smuggler Delay shot, AoE warcry type move...
Actually, it is called panic shot.
Ubesane
RuytooBasgar
Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:17 am
#18
I do the aim because it increases the chance of the attack hitting the target,high accuracy or not. It doesn't increase the chance that the KD will stick but adding the aim in there usually means I hit the target both times I use low blow instead of one or none so there is a better chance of kd'ing them faster.
You don't really need to do this if your not running unless there a defensive stacker. If your running, you definetly want to do this because accuarcy goes way down when you run.
Message Edited by RuytooBasgar on 09-15-2004 02:18 PM
Bryced
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:26 am
#19
against someone with medic skills or doc,,,,,panic shot,,,last ditch ,,last ditch ect ect (let them heal a few times) switch to eye shot and own them. If the person has no medic i like to stick with the panic/last ditch combo. Main reason is that although eye shot targets a specific pool,,,there are just too many pvpers that walk around with mind buffs, brandy together with canape/arisa and muon if they get in trouble...if they have a psg and stun armor it would take all day to kill them with eye shot and a geo///sometimes best to go with the most powerful shot.
Bryce
wacoc84
Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:42 am
#20
I used to be the all pistols template, but i missed meditate too much, so now i'm Master Pistoleer/Desperado 2/ and Rogue 2. and i must say in groups the 3 bleeds i get work really good, but eyeshot/stopping shot really tear down a target fast. even healthhit2
Rockhurst
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:11 am
#21
RuytooBasgar wrote:
If the person at any time heals when your using Last Ditch, immediatly change to Eyeshot. Last Ditch is useless against someone with decent medic skills.
Also, it never hurts (you anyway) to throw on a Torso Shot to start a burn especially if you are gonna use Last Ditch. It will help tremendously.
First, it depends on your weapon. A 600+ dmg DE-10 can do HUGE damage to anyone not wearing armor (find the DPS calculator and try it with a 600 dmg DE-10 and see just how great that gun can be.
I agree with most of Rutoo's comments, though I think a combination of specials works well. Definitely throw a Torso Shot out early to start the burning.If you see them using medic skills, don't necessarily switch away. A few eyeshots should lower their mind enough that they'll be afraid to heal too much to decrease their mind.Also, don't forget the mind bleed in bleed shot. Depending on their medic skills and mind stats, you can "trick" a person into over healing themselves and finish off their mind with eyeshot. But, it basically is all based on your oponent and the situation.
KahthLuknk
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:14 am
#22
in my experiance (im mbh/master pist/novice brawl) i always start off with /stoppingshot, nomatter what which isnt THAT much difference from last ditch imo (i still hit 500-600dmg with my geo) if they heal i immediately switch to eyeshot, but ALOT of the time nowadays no1 takes novice medic cos they think everyone hits mind
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