Pistoleer Archive

ok honestly do they just listen to all the whiners crying bout the AOE KD? we have like 4 skills that actually function(not are good but at least work) stopping shot...err yah random ham damage to random pool. fan shot(for some reason not as good as stopping shot yet same random pool damage) the whole left side of the skill tree is horeendous move almost no pistoleer uses. disarming shot 1(griefing shot to damage weaps..u cant really do anything pve related with this) the bonus defenses are all broken. KD resists, dodge..(ive dodged single digits in the game since its release) multi target shot(master skill) is obviously still not working..it randomly hits multiple targets with no effect of any sort (bleed, fire bleed, dizzy, something liike every other classs has.) we are unable to pick our HAMs to destroy cause body shot 3 is weaker than body shot 2.

Sorry im getting mad that the devs for some reason actually believe MP to be overpowered and if they take away the ONLY decent move i have against mobs (aoe kd) besides the bleeds, i will probably have to quit simply because it makes no sense.

BV

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I think we need to complain more, even if we think we are ok. According to them, if we think we are ok now, we must be overpowered.24/7complainingis the strategy all the other classes seems to have taken and it seems to be working.

i mean its ridiculous while i agree that the "guns twirling" crap should not have been included in first report...

doesnt mean omg we are so OVERPOWERED

the essential problem with this game is KD not us..using it...KD itself is broken,

like i said i challenge any person with pistoleer experience to tell me that besides the KDs they cry bout that our skills are "overpowered"

as far as the speed..yah too bad when i see carbine users with 100 speed bonus they shoot **edit** near as fast ast me.

the fundamental speed calculation in this game is broken dont just single us out..just cause people cry like Bhs, and all other professions.

its time to go whine bout every class in the game guys that way we can avoid the LARGE nerf bat that will surely slap us down to marksman novice status.

ridiculous how holocron even states he doesnt have a high level character yet listens to all the **edit** trolls crying bout pistoleer.

BV

the problem with speed skill is there is obviously a cap on how fast any wpn will shoot and thats 1per sec. so being that pistols are the fastest weapon type the speed cap handicaps us the most. i.e. most our pistol speed skill is wasted. and carbineers and riflemen get the full speed reduction.( hence carbineers shooting as fast as pistoleers, 1per sec)

Naw, if you complain you get nerfed, if you don't complain you get nerfed. See a trend?

devs please read the only pistoleer special that works is kd. bs2(marksman skill) does more damage than a bs3 per second

i cant believe they even said this. what posts have they been reading? seriously.

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Ranende wrote:

I think we need to complain more, even if we think we are ok. According to them, if we think we are ok now, we must be overpowered.24/7complainingis the strategy all the other classes seems to have taken and it seems to be working.

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My thoughts exactly.

I only picked up pistols for the KD. With the KD I can solo almost any knockdownable non-BAF mob in the game. When I see a Red-Con I just think its as their blood ready to spill.

Woot. I m 1337!!

It is overpowered.

I think it's a truly sad state when a lack of complaining from one group means to the devs that we may be overpowered.

BH? think that they should be able to kill us out of hand because "that's what they do". Been there, didn't care for it. Quite honestly, I blame alot of the complaints about pistoleers being overpowered on BH/pistol types that are whacking stuff for 1k+ with scatter pistols. I had to make some real adjustments when I dropped BH and couldn't use a scatter anymore. If you want to cut back on pistoleers power, nerf the armor vs unarmored bonus. Personally, I'd much rather be hit in a non-vital area with an armor piercing round that goes straight thru than something nasty like an exploding round.

CH? is pissed because they keep getting nuke-nerfed. Can't blame em cuz I'm one of em.

DE? wow...I'd be pissed too..

Commando? wow...another one I'm glad I didn't grind for days to try.

The list goes on...

It's becoming quite apparent that the only thing I'm gonna be happy with is Ranger.

I don't think we're overpowered.

I don't even think knockdown should have gotten nerfed, they should have put the modifiers for all the resistances in first.

If you don't have the resistances in PvP and you're going up against a guy that has a knockdown, you shouldn't be pvping.

Oh another thing, buff all the other classes then stead of nerfing us again.

About the only reason I can think of why we might be considered 'overpowered' is because of what BH complain about. We can KD 10 times and they can only do it 3 times. I say fine, Eliminate KD from the game or make it Non-Effective in PvP. Issue resolved!

To that effect, I cannot see how:

BS3 is overpowering? BS2 is a marksman skill and is better with more damage over time.

Disarm shot is overpowering? Umm, this does nothing to NPC in PvE and is a grief shot in PvP so no one wants to use it, it's only good on lairs? Umm, I never knew lairs can be equiped with weapons for you to disarm!

Double tap overpowering? Umm, BS2 from Marksman will take down your target faster then you using this RANDOM POOL crap.

Stoping shot overpowering? Umm, Nope, same as Double tap.

Fan Shot, it must be fan shot then right? Nope, same crap as Double tap and Stoping shot. (the fact is our best targeted ham pool shot isn't even ours, it's the marksmen which deals out from miss's to 300 damage with every now and then being able to see a woping 400 damage, like once a week. Meanwhile you have like BH with a targeted ham that does above 600 damage and is NON-HEALABLE, Now that's overpowering! At least you can heal our damage faster then we can dish it out!)

oh, wait, the BH favorite line, we have defense bonus's, so that must be making us overpowering? umm, last I checked, WHAT DEFENSIVE BONUS! their all shut off!

So what is it exactly that is overpowering about us? KD? Hell, shut it off then like you did to defensive skills and to hell with all the nerfing and yelling and crying. This is rediculous.

oh wait..I'm not done yet...

people that complain about pistoleers are generally:
1. BH using scatter and getting bodacious AP bonuses...I personally hit for up to 1400 with scatter + stoppingshot before dropping BH.
2. used to their own specials and think we shoot too fast. It's a fricking pistol people, and even with my DX2 (which still kinda suck), my max is 900ish with fanshot, which hits a random pool. I'm expert stances and almost expert marksman and I *SHOULD* be able to blast low level stuff into orbit. I feel pretty confident one-on-one against up to a 5 or 6k HAM Imp, but vs 3 I'm toast. If I throw specials for any length of time, I do more damage to myself than they do to me.

Summary:
Before laying down another nerf on us, someone actually needs to put away the scatter pistol and try doing some damage vs a heavy resistance or armored target using a FWG5 or DX2.

Tssr'ct Misso - Ranger/Pistoleer