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You *should* be better in pistol....

But we *should* have traps that do something negative to you....

That *would* be the balance.....

This isnt a anti pistoleer thread...... This is a thread saying that 1v1 pistols out you should win.... if you get the jump..... but if we throw a flash bang in your face.... its a different story...

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Sythe1 wrote:

You *should* be better in pistol....

But we *should* have traps that do something negative to you....

That *would* be the balance.....

This isnt a anti pistoleer thread...... This is a thread saying that 1v1 pistols out you should win.... if you get the jump..... but if we throw a flash bang in your face.... its a different story...

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Thank you for seeing what most of us Pistoleers have been trying to get across. Yes, BH should be able to beat pistoleers - using tactics that are special to their respective class (which at this current time is the use of other weapon types preficiently, though hopefully in the future something like what you mention might aslo be available for BH as well) -but they should not be able to wield a pistol against a pistoleer and expect to win hands down, or even the majority of the time. If they whip out a carbine or rifle on the pistoleer? Yeah, they should have a greatly increased chance to beat the pistoleer. But pistol vs. pistol those chances should be greatly reduced.

And no, I'm not saying a Master BH vs. a Novice Pistoleer, with only one or two boxes aside from novice trained, in the above examples -so please no one try putting those words into my post. But a pistoleer with more than 4 boxes in a single line of their tree and/or some in the other lines as well, should be able to give the Master a good runnning in a fight doing only pistol vs. pistol - because the pistoleer will have more experience and training in that one singular weapon type.

Spekao

Wow..a BH with some common sense. I agree with your post are you should have some traps up your sleave. Whats the use for all that trapping xp? But the simple point is a pistoleer should be the BEST with a PISTOL. Now give us a carbine...and were screwd. Glad to hear some common sense.

see we arent all mean.... This post should go a little ways to ligthen up the differences between us

That's pretty much what I've been thinking since Beta. BH should havesome stealth oriented tree that is an extention of their scouting skills. Traps would be a good candidate for that type of thing. Same general thing applies to Commandos. They should also have some stealth capability so they can sneak behind enemy lines, layout a devastating amount of short term firepower, and then disappear in to the shadows again. However, you catch them in a straight up fight then they should be fodder to a prepared advesary. Those sorts of things would add so much more depth to PvE and PvP than what we have now with the All-Seeing Eye .... errr, I mean radar.

i AGREE 100%!!!! bounty hunter should have a good overall use of carbines/pistols because they get master marksman, and they should have traps to use against NPCs and players because they get master scout.

they should NOT be stronger than master pistoleer or master rifleman.

just because someone spends 217 or so points getting bounty hunterit doesnt mean that they should be above all the other classes.

pistoleers SPECIALIZE in pistols

riflemen SPECIALIZE in rifles

Bounty hunters SPECIALIZE in tracking and killing bounties (npc/pc whatever)

so they should be strong, and have traps to stop their bounties from attacking them, but the way it is now is just patheticly unbalanced.

Umm you understood me wrong... we Should be stronger... just not with a pistol... we should have to use our heads... and traps

yeah you totally just hit on the problem. BH have nothing UNIQUE that they are good at.

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Stargoo wrote:
yeah you totally just hit on the problem. BH have nothing UNIQUE that they are good at.

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Actually I'd ammend that to say they have nothing unique related to half of their profession (master scout) that they are good at. Currently BH can purposfully target different mind pools with pistol and carbine that pistoleers and carbinerrs can not, I'd chalk that up to being unique in that aspect of their profession.

Spekao

Don't you guys get tired of argueing over the same things and talking about the same topic for 6 weeks lol ? If you ask me as a pistoleer i wouldn't want to see the BH get nerfed at all in the pistol line. Why you ask ? Cause its only hurting myself. A pistoleer with BH pistol line is one deadly combo from what i have seen. And the fact that a good 85 to 90% of pistoleers take the BH line for scatter and the styles basicly means your only nerfing your own over all combat effectiveness. I still get a kick out of the fact that no one realy has figured out this game yet as far as making a good char. Everyone looks at this as if it were another mmorpg. Say like daoc you choose a class and thats what you are and thats it. So if your a tank, your a tank so you know what you can and cannot do. The whole reason why you can never balance this game is because everyone has just as good of a chance to be = to another as possible. The game isn't meant for you to master a class and that is that. The best chars are the mutts, a mix of different styles and def/attack bonuses a class tree gives you to overall strengthen your char. Taking the best things from a tree and that augment your playing style and going from there. Regaurdless of what the skill points were used on should a master BH have an edge on a pistoleer ? Yes, and No. If you have a char that is a master BH vs someone who is just a master Pistoleer the BH should win. Who cares what the skills are called its still more points spent then the other. Now however you take a master BH vs someone who is a Master Pistoleer/Master medic/ Master marksmen ( odd combo but just an example ) then it should be pretty much more of a fight that comes town to strategy since both classes are augmented towards combat and both have used all their points towards that. The BH having a slight edge in combat leathality however in this set up the pistoleer could more then make up for that with medical skills. So in the end, that is my opinion. And now you may continue flaming this post if you like, or another post, or keep flaming for 6 more weeks, and see that it brings youno where. =] My 2 cents

P.S. Sorry about the typos and bad spelling, its midnight i am going to bed lol.

NegativeOutcome: Pistoleer/Bounty Pistol 4 is a nice combo, but Pistoleer/Doctor, Pistoleer/CM, and Pistoleer/CH are all AT LEAST as effective for PvP.

If you are really into becoming a 'pistol-pimp' then that's the way to go though!

If you didnt notice this wasnt an argue post