Pistoleer Archive
Thread: A reasonable request from a pistoleer: fix our profession
/agree
Been a master since launch basically, and it amazes me that the only time I ever used a master level special was when /disarmingshot2 accidently had the ranged AoE KD (for like a week or two I think). Other than that, I've only ever used the skill as a lair buster.... a Master level skill noly usable against brambles, dead logs, and thickets... Well Hoo Ray for our side...
As for /multitargetpistolshot, I've never used it... ever.
I recently picked up Fencer for a bit of a change, and man, the specials seem to all be generally working nicely. As you level up, your specials get better, not worse. Seems like it'd be a decent idea to do this in other profs as well...
Just my 2 cents.
/sign
Im a master pistoleer and agree with this, but if any profession needs fixing, its Bounty Hunter..it takes 200+ SP for God's sake and usuallysucks in PvP.
Got news for ya bud, they don't care about this board either. When was the last time anything was fixed in the GCW?
Turrets? No, still ajoke.
Base Times? No, instead the "fix" ended up destroying them all.
NPC Bases? Nope.
Battlefields? Ummmm......no.
GTEF? Uhhh, no.
PVP Decay bugs? Nope.
Double slicing and other weapon/armor exploits? Nope.
Here's an idea. Wait for the Combat and GCW revamps, and stop whining. If you're still not satisfied when they are done, quit. This isn't the only computer game on the market, and EQ2 will be out by then anyway.
Ehecu wrote:
With all due respect, JEST3R, we believe that the developers couldn't care less about our profession board. We've been cooking up ideas and petitioning among ourselves since launch and not once have our cries been answered. They turn their backs to us until the forum search finds results for "nerf," at which time our last truly comparable special, disarming shot 2, is "adjusted" into nothingness. Is the fact that an entire profession is incapable of participating in PvP GCW not a GCW issue? We share a speed cap with riflemen and carbineers, yet they have highly superior damage and specials. We share that same feeling of worthlessness with pikemen, yet we do not get our broken specials addressed? This problem has grown in scale and is now truly on the scale of the War itself. Please, do what you can to bring this issue to the devs and express to them its importance.
Message Edited by Ehecu on 04-17-2004 04:12 AM
I thought I would put my support behind the thread. There isn't a lot I can add that other pistoleers haven't already posted. You might try our Top 5 Issues or the already linkedStatus of Pistoleer Specials.
Pistoleers are depressed, angry, and frustrated. We grow tired of the waiting game, and without an ounce of arrogance, would like to be kicked up to a "high priority." So far, there has been minimal evidence that we are much of a priority at all. List of PistoleerGoodies Since Launch:
Meanwhile, we have such crippling problems as an arsenal of about 3 specials, a speed equation that leaves us in the dust (with Carbineers, I might add), and defenses that aren't half as good as people make them out to be. Dodge doesn't cut it when somebody else can incapacitate you inside of 5 specials, and you need to fire dozens at the same speed (lets hope they don't pop a Stim B). I'm sure our defenses are great forstackers who want to pick and choose, but for the Master Pistoleers, we feel the hurt. We aren't a buffet for dabbling or even a "leg up" on the path to Smuggler/BH/Commando, we are an Elite Combat Profession. Dabbling in/with us is fine, but we have another role: Master Gunfighter. It's time we started being treated like it.
The developers tell us that things will be better in the Combat Balance, and that they are doing what they can to squeeze in some fixes between now and then. We will continue to do anything the developers ask of us to expedite this process.
Message Edited by Randonb on 04-20-2004 01:24 PM
biwan:The Issue is a simple one really....
I work my tail off for the very small amount of attention we do get on GCW issues, however more and more lately this forum, my forum is becoming a catch all of all complaints, it is already hard enough keeping tabs on the very few vital non-repetitive, non petition constructive threads we have here.
As for the P{istoleer, our profession is broke and DPS quotes and such ... its not my realm, not my say and has absolutely nothing to do with the GCW in the greater manner of the GCW, nearly everything can have a corellation drawn to the GCW, crafting , combat specials... but the GCW cor and this profession is not for the detailed discussion as to whats wrong with a particular profession, your profession forums and correspondents are supposed to handle that, and you will get no support for such detailed things here.
JEST3R
Well said Randonb!
Randonb wrote:
I thought I would put my support behind the thread. There isn't a lot I can add that other pistoleers haven't already posted. You might try our Top 5 Issues or the already linkedStatus of Pistoleer Specials.
Pistoleers are depressed, angry, and frustrated. We grow tired of the waiting game, and without an ounce of arrogance, would like to be kicked up to a "high priority." So far, there has been minimal evidence that we are much of a priority at all. List of PistoleerGoodies Since Launch:
Defenses increased in game-wide defense buffing publish.
Republic Blaster made "Certified" for everybody (even jedi), rather than nobody
Republic Blaster Certification placed in Novice pistoleer
After bleeds were made Random HAM on initial hit, they were switched to pool specific
Fan Shot was broken (the cone effect was intentionally removed) on TC, but the patch never saw Live servers
3 limited use pistol schematics, and now the 4th (on TC) is being declared worthless by Pistoleers (it's a slower but harder hitting Republic Blaster). The Modified Republic is certed in the Marksman tree, even though it's better than our standard Republic in the Pistoleer tree.
Dodge animation fixed on TC, one publish behind Fencers.
Meanwhile, we have such crippling problems as an arsenal of about 3 specials, a speed equation that leaves us in the dust (with Carbineers, I might add), and defenses that aren't half as good as people make them out to be. Dodge doesn't cut it when somebody else can incapacitate you inside of 5 specials, and you need to fire dozens at the same speed (lets hope they don't pop a Stim B). I'm sure our defenses are great forstackers who want to pick and choose, but for the Master Pistoleers, we feel the hurt. We aren't a buffet for dabbling or even a "leg up" on the path to Smuggler/BH/Commando, we are an Elite Combat Profession. Dabbling in/with us is fine, but we have another role: Master Gunfighter. It's time we started being treated like it.
The developers tell us that things will be better in the Combat Balance, and that they are doing what they can to squeeze in some fixes between now and then. We will continue to do anything the developers ask of us to expedite this process.
Sadly Jester, thats what this forum has turned into. With the closing of the discussion forum, the GCW forum is where the majority of the community goes to be heard about profession balance. If this was the only thread in the forum regarding professions, then I could see your point - but in its current state at least half of the thread on the front page are profession related. As long as thats the case, then I dont think you can say with any validity that this thread in and of itself is out of place. Our profession is broken, balance is out of whack, and we are using all of the available venues in order to be heard. I dont see anything wrong with that, and niether should you.
JEST3R wrote:
The Issue is a simple one really....
I work my tail off for the very small amount of attention we do get on GCW issues, however more and more lately this forum, my forum is becoming a catch all of all complaints, it is already hard enough keeping tabs on the very few vital non-repetitive, non petition constructive threads we have here.
As for the P{istoleer, our profession is broke and DPS quotes and such ... its not my realm, not my say and has absolutely nothing to do with the GCW in the greater manner of the GCW, nearly everything can have a corellation drawn to the GCW, crafting , combat specials... but the GCW cor and this profession is not for the detailed discussion as to whats wrong with a particular profession, your profession forums and correspondents are supposed to handle that, and you will get no support for such detailed things here.
Lets not get a Pistoleers vs JEST3R thing going here.
Message Edited by Randonb on 04-20-2004 01:04 PM
Dasch wrote:
Also, we should be able to use at least the Scatter pistol at master. How can a novice BH be certified to use a pistol a master Pistoleer can't?
/amen