Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Fellow Pistoleers
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FOR GODSAKES JUST FIX OUR CLASS....IT CANT TAKE MORE THAN A DAY..... WE EARNED IT
Issik your argument is that buffs and food have made rifleman ungodly in a fight. You say you can use 8-9 specials if you are not fooded and buffed, which isnt really backing your argument up very well. In 8-9 shots a decent rifleman can pork 2-3 people. In 8-9 shots a pistoleer might get a lucky shot or two off which might get a high enough roll to MAYBE kill someone. ANd I'm not evne tlaking mind shot3, ASS can easily decimate someone in 8-9 hits EASILY.
Although I agree to an extent with your veiw on the problem of having eyeshot spamming BH's running amok again if pistoleer got a huge buff. ALthough I have to say, at this point I dont care. When I had Dirty Fighting, I looked for BH in a fight, even if they were master pistoleers as well. Their lack of defenses make them easy prey, even easier then pistoleers, despite their inifitly higher damage output, and ability to control a target with status effects. This is the main problem with pistoleer. BH's. It was when I was a BH, and it still is. With BH a pistoleer can be essentially as powerful as a rifleman, however it leaves us with only 13 skill points, so inevitably a rifleman will always be better if he also spends all his skill points in combat stuff. But the ability to take up BH will always be there to allow people to scream at the top of their lungs agasint a nice needed buff for pistoleer, because hey, you can spend all but 13 skill points and be as good as someone else who spends only 92. DOnt ask me how this is even an argument but it is, and in a twisted way, I do see the logic in it. However honestly folks, I dont even fear eyeshot anymore, let a BH eyeshot me all day long, it will do no good. I think its the memory of eyeshot spamming that scares people not the reality of it now, but thats just my 2 cents.
I would also through in that rifleman was always good, back in teh day before the rifleman buff a good rifleman coudl work anyone over. When I was a BH and then a BH/pistoleer the only people I couldnt kill were good rifleman, because they could just work me over better then I could work them over. Its just become so blatent now because its been so long that rifleman have been ontop that EVERYONE knows how good they are now. Its not that they all of a sudden got godly, its that the few things that prevented them from litterally being the defacto win button profession and gods of PVP were removed or changed, so now everyone is one, and their awsomeness is laid bare before everyone, instead of being a nich group. Its like having a secret society, which is increadibly powerful. Nobody says anything when its small and secret, but when everyone from the mayor to the bum taking cans out of your garbage is a memeber, and the power is flaunted that people begin to get nervous. Then again I'm rambling totaly off topic so I'm gone.
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I just got master pistoleer and spent a helluva lotta time gettin there... I WANT SOMETHING DECENT TO USE!! I think anyone here will agree when I say the best move we have that is fine the way it is is Healthshot2 and for god sakes its a NOVICE skill, im not saying make healthshot2 worse...god no then there'd be nothing for pistoleers to use...im still waiting for the combat fix I wanna be a gunslinger damnit not a **edit**in' police recruit I have to run from damn near anyone if I cant get lucky... I havent been around as long as some other MPs but I can already tell its been a long wait with no reward except a few special fixes... that aparently DIDN'T work just for god sakes fix the Pistoleer prof.
The reason riflemen got powerful: 3 bumps, no nerfs. Our hams have gone up slightly, but nothing too crazy, like an extra 15-30 points or somethin, which can be negated with food. Andbout the 8-9 shots, with some of the pistols I've seen, that could drop 8-9 people with a LOT of luck. 1349 PVP damage from a Geno 
. Some nasty stun damage
Mob aggro/warping was fixed
2.5x melee gone
HUGE accuracy increase. = 3 bumps, no nerfs.
And you didn't ramble 
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EsistDarkSky wrote:
Fix the Specials.Give FWG5s Light Armor Piercing. Thank you. You're Fixed.
coln wrote:
haha good I was figuring I was rambling on there. And I agree, yeah the buffs on rifleman took an already decent profession and made it amazing.
I would though, and this isnt ment to be mean or anything, I just wouldnt use a player made geno pistol as an example fo what were capable. Its almost although not quite, as bad as using a legendary gun as an example of power
Essentially what we need, is a buff in accuracy, maybe up to 120, a buff in speed, maybe up to 85, possibly 90, and not just to have our specials fixed, but to have them changed. Even if our specials were fixed things like state effects are important, and we have none, we have specials that are essentially better versions of other specials. Why use double tap when you can use stopping shot, why use stopping shot when you can use fanshot, why use bodyshot 3 when body shot 2 does more or less the same dps for less ham? We are vanella. Rifleman complain about their lack of state effects, but honestly, a good rifleman can litterally WORK a person, pistoleers, we just dont have the ability. Without at least 2 or 3 state effects and GOOD target HAM specials we are useless. While random ham attacks are nice in certain situations, we just lack the solid target ones that are needed to trully win a fight.
Of course what does it matter right? nothing will get changed untill 4 or more months from now when publish 10 and 11 go live. Meanwhile rifleman and CM will continue to decide a fight, pistoleer will still suck, and rifleman will still be claiming they dont require a tonning down, while everyone else bays for their blood. In all honesty I pitty the real rifleman out there. The bandwagoners who refuse to see the truth just arent being constructive, and if even a 10th of what the community of non rifleman are screaming makes it into the supposed combat "balance" true rifleman will see their profession destroyed.
Agree almost 100 percent. 110 accuracy, 85 speed should be more than enough. After they fix at least half your specials, that should make y'all competitive. I'd like to see disarming shot do intimidate, and disarm2 do intimidate and stun. Be kinda cool. Rifles stun/dizzy, Pistols intimidate/stun, carbines do it all.
Sidenote: I've been a rifler since release. No Bandwagons for me!
