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Thread: FAN SHOT = WASTE OF TIME!

MutantSquirrel
Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:35 am
#40

"In general, an aoe attack will only do damage to something that is already in combat (that's why the first shot only does damage to one target). So what you have to do is either find socials things to attack, or trigger all the mobs to attack you before you start using fanshot (this is also why it shouldn't trigger lair spawns if not targeted)"


This is not necessarily true. When I first started using fanshot (before I discovered its true aoe power), I was hunting krayts (before critter patch). When I was attacking a single krayt near the lair, I was spamming fanshot. Next thing you know, there's 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... 5 krayts all popped outta the lair and after me. I DID NOT have the lair targetted. No one else around claimed having shot the lair. I checked the lair and it was over 50% damaged. It had to have been me hitting it because when the krayts all spawned, they made a beeline for me.


Also there has been numerous time that I'm hunting huurtons and there is a bol or picket lair nearby. If I was not careful with fanshot while trying to hit the huurtons, I would hit these peaceful critters that were not attacking me.


I know you said "In general" so I'm just stating that Fanshot must not be your general aoe attack.





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Xx_Predator_xX
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:55 am
#41

Fanshot has the chance to aggro anything in that cone of fire for at least 60 m. I love the shot but on sometimes you cant use it because you will pull too many mobs on you. Get the group surrounding another player in your group or a pet and aim in a direction where there is no other mobs or any lairs and see the power of fanshot when you do 1k + dmg to 4 or 5 targets at once.



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KulenErion
Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:38 pm
#42

Hey all, I know I'm a rifleman and most of you are pissed off at me for being a rifleman, but I've been one since day one, so give me a break because I leveled through the hell that was the rifleman.


Ok, the reason I'm on this forum is that I started pistoleer this weekend (I'm sort of trying stuff out now that holos are done) and I noticed that almost everyone recommends fan shot. When I saw this thread, I thought it was weird and interesting at the same time. Anyway, let me just give my observations of aoe attacks in general and why I think fanshot is good, with or without pets or a tank.


In general, an aoe attack will only do damage to something that is already in combat (that's why the first shot only does damage to one target). So what you have to do is either find socials things to attack, or trigger all the mobs to attack you before you start using fanshot (this is also why it shouldn't trigger lair spawns if not targeted). The nice thing about aoe shots is that you can load up a powerup, trigger a social mob, gurks for example, run from them and fire the aoe, doing damage to all of them and kill them all in less shots than it would to kill individual ones. This is nice for several reasons, first, you buy less powerups, second, you wear out your gun a lot less, and finally, you rake in xp at a faster pace.


Of course there's always a downside, mainly that you can trigger multiple mobs at once. So of course it should be used wisely. OK, ready to get flamed now. *ducks behind a wall*




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KulenErion
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:53 pm
#43

OK, when I said it doesn't do damage, I did not mean that it doesn't aggro them. There's a difference between just getting them aggro'd and doing actual damage to them. Anyway, my point was that if you get them all into combat, you can do damage to them (they don't have to be attacking you or even hitting something, they just have to have the big red X in their tab.




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ProfessorBobo
Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:54 pm
#44

Here's what I do:


Get a pet, preferably with armor, but you can only get one of those now if you are a decent CH. Anyway, send the pet at the lair. After it starts to spawn new creatures, target the lair and spam fan shot. The spawning creatures should be hitting your creature while you hit them all from a safe distance. If they come at you, knock them down with pistol melee defense I and have your pet attack them. They'll get back up and attack your pet. Then, send the pet back to the lair. As you do damage to the lair, some of the creatures will start healing it, preventing the second wave from spawning. Once the first two waves are dead, repeat with the final. With a regular quenker lair I can get 20k xp in about 5 minutes. Just make sure you have plenty of good pet stims to heal your pet during and after the fight.

lorildeh
Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:27 am
#45

the AOE effect on fanshot is only atemporary fix, correct? multitarget pistol shot should be the AOE, and fanshot should hit all 3 pools at once on 1 target.


if its fixed i think there will be a lot of pistoleer droppers if its kept like this then n/m and whoopdie do




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Kaneda7777
Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:33 am
#46

Ok guys just to let you all know i found out that doing Pikets is a BAD idea.


I did some Savage Quenker lairs and i dont get surrounded as they shoot acid (or something like that)


Anyway yes fanshot takes care of these guys QUICKLY.



Sorry.

Serbinator
Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:25 pm
#47

My personnal favorite use for fan shot? The utter decimation of a rebel base's NPCs in something around a minute.

Fan shot, fan shot (2 to make sure everything near is aggroing me), panic shot, panic shot, (10s delay, also an AoE/ConeofFire attack), Fan shot (repeat til all dead). Few things are as amusing as simultaneously fan shotting 15-20 NPCs at once who can't even shoot back. Basically nothing but Commandos, Colonels, and Generals can live past about 5 fan shots. It's glorious. Fan shot is *probably* the best PvE attack in the game.



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OpieWanKenobi
Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:10 am
#48

Can someone tell me how to use fanshot correctly. I hear that fanshot is a waste of time and that fanshot is the greatest ability so i need to know how to use it correctly



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DaHumAn
Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:13 am
#49

well i just took down 3 stormtroopers with it after i landed bleed on them all so it's pretty nice if you ask me




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