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Thread: Attention Pistoleers: People Laugh in PvP Quite Hard about Your Profession
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SilvaSWG
Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:54 pm
#40
forgot /confusionshot prior to fireknockdown with my 103 accuracy speed sliced/powered DH17.
I have no idea what you guys are complaining about. Im a twi'lek cannon. People are not laughing at me at all. They just go from red to grey.
Silva Dor'Dali
trajen2
Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:10 am
#42
I agree with Silva. . .he knows how to use the skills he has. . .
...and finally someone who uses a DH17. . .I get laughed at when I equip that thing but i love it. .
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SilvaSWG
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:14 am
#43
Morath360 wrote:
SilvaSWG wrote:
Master Pistoleer
BH 0/4/3/0
Open with double fanshots from my mind poison DOT pistols
fireknockdown with a accurate DH17, eyeshot or torsoshot with a geo stun with whereever they are lowest
stay the hell out of melee range and have a doc on your team to clear the poison
I destroy people in PvP.
Silva Dor'Dali
Yes and with your uber +22 ranged defense and +20 defense vs posture change with no combat equilib you sure would stay on your feet a long time against a riflemen with suppression fire. Or a rifle fencer like many on bria have... I wanted bh pistols to work in the worst way, it just don't. You prolly go in larger groups so you are not targeted first and yes that is using what you have to. Also, you bring a Geo and any decent pvper will laugh at you unless you have a godly one that does 500 damage.
Edit: Let me say something positive about it. One thing my 440 scatter did well was tear up armor.. I took the armor life down about 1500 on several guys. I always talk to the people I kill or who kill me. They really help me a lot. I compliment them and they tell me there templates and strategy. This part of the game is really cool if you approach it right.
Anyway man Im glad you are having success with it..
Message Edited by Morath360 on 06-17-2004 07:39 AM
I normally travel with a PvP group. This is not a good solo template, especially against a Riflemen/CM. I use 500+ Geo blasters normally spamming eye shot because my mind poisons from the two DOT pistols are good 147 & 200.
I have a great mods shirt, bandoleer, ak rings etc. All I ment to get across in this post is that the Pistoleer combined with the BH Carb/Pistol line is still a very strong template that stands up very well. It will only get better with the combat changes.
If you dont have a way to target the mind you are practically useless in today's PvP though I completely agree with that. 90% of the time its the mind pool I target and most people still dont remember to reselect their imperial PSG's so stun is usually still very effective. Or at least its more effective than anything else.
I win far more than I lose even in single combat.
Silva Dor'Dali
Eked
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:53 am
#44
SilvaSWG wrote:
Morath360 wrote:
SilvaSWG wrote:
Master Pistoleer
BH 0/4/3/0
Open with double fanshots from my mind poison DOT pistols
fireknockdown with a accurate DH17, eyeshot or torsoshot with a geo stun with whereever they are lowest
stay the hell out of melee range and have a doc on your team to clear the poison
I destroy people in PvP.
Silva Dor'Dali
Yes and with your uber +22 ranged defense and +20 defense vs posture change with no combat equilib you sure would stay on your feet a long time against a riflemen with suppression fire. Or a rifle fencer like many on bria have... I wanted bh pistols to work in the worst way, it just don't. You prolly go in larger groups so you are not targeted first and yes that is using what you have to. Also, you bring a Geo and any decent pvper will laugh at you unless you have a godly one that does 500 damage.
Edit: Let me say something positive about it. One thing my 440 scatter did well was tear up armor.. I took the armor life down about 1500 on several guys. I always talk to the people I kill or who kill me. They really help me a lot. I compliment them and they tell me there templates and strategy. This part of the game is really cool if you approach it right.
Anyway man Im glad you are having success with it..
Message Edited by Morath360 on 06-17-2004 07:39 AM
I normally travel with a PvP group. This is not a good solo template, especially against a Riflemen/CM. I use 500+ Geo blasters normally spamming eye shot because my mind poisons from the two DOT pistols are good 147 & 200.
I have a great mods shirt, bandoleer, ak rings etc. All I ment to get across in this post is that the Pistoleer combined with the BH Carb/Pistol line is still a very strong template that stands up very well. It will only get better with the combat changes.
If you dont have a way to target the mind you are practically useless in today's PvP though I completely agree with that. 90% of the time its the mind pool I target and most people still dont remember to reselect their imperial PSG's so stun is usually still very effective. Or at least its more effective than anything else.
I win far more than I lose even in single combat.
Silva Dor'Dali
Im with you Silva.. I too pvp with my active guild on daily basis... and i like to lead the charge with my dot geo (190str 150sec) then switch to my dam geo.. icap at least 10 to every time i get capd.
SilvaSWG
Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:35 am
#45
Eked,
Notice Desperado in your sig. I loved the title so much I held on to it forever but recently decided to switch to 4 carbs to get confusionshot. I dont need the 10/10 pistol acc/speed due to being a master pistol and the dizzy stun seems useful so far. Thoughts? Anyone is welcome to comment. It seems like the knockdown from the fire is more effective with the confusion opener but ive only been using it for a short time.
Silva Dor'Dali
DimiGR
Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:56 am
#46
well I dont think that pistoleer sux in pvp.
I am a master swordsman, master pistoleer, 0004 tka and 1040 medic.
If a malee class comes I intimidate him using swords and try to stick a dizzy with 1-3 headhits3.
Whatever dizzy sticks or not I kd with malee defense 1 (switched to pistols, after the 1-3 2hhits3)
then run away from them spaming stoping shot (I have +15 speedAA on me)
Now vs rifleman, just move arround, spamming stoping shot and have a synthsteak eaten.
If u have a stun composite (or helm, he ll change the jawa and get a t21 or a dxr6, which have a lot more mind costs)
He must eat 2 ahrisa to keep spamming headshots on u.
So no much room for other food and drinks (well i guess he got 2 brandies as well).
Well he maybe get some muon, but then he ll be vulnerable with the downer.
So keep running and spam fanshot or stopping shot, whatever u like (i am spamming stopping because of the +15 speed)
If u get 2-3 head shots on him, he ll stop spaming to regenerate, if u dont then must heal himself.
Well i dont use a psg, and only a stun helmet.
If i do less damage with my sonic i am switching to dx2
U can win vs a rifleman 30%-40% of the time, (well I can).
And dont forget rifleman is buggy (speed)
Its going to be fixed.
If he couldnt shoot as fast as i can the match would be 50%-50% if u got the right equiptment
Morath360
Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:18 am
#47
Eked wrote:
Im with you Silva.. I too pvp with my active guild on daily basis... and i like to lead the charge with my dot geo (190str 150sec) then switch to my dam geo.. icap at least 10 to every time i get capd.
You guys have got to remember that most people cannot get +500 geos and mind DOT's on there pistols. That changes things completely. If you didnt have that you would be much more dependant on your group. I have been looking for these but so far the dot's I've seen are small.
The thing that really ticked me off is not being able to get back up from dizzy posture change. It happend to me 3 times in a row. I tried standing slowly, or hitting the button 1 time.. really all the things I used to do with my old template that worked fine. It seems that if they see the scatter pistol then boom im postured down, I try to stay there and still eventually do something that lands me on my back.
I dont mind losing but any honorable Klingon does not want to lying on his back...LOL...
Qa'pla...
SilvaSWG
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:03 am
#48
Saw the title of the thread and reacted to it. Definately the equipment is major as well as having the BH eyeshot but when someone to posts that garbage on the Pistoleerforums it deserves a response. There are certainly a predominance of CM/Riflemen but aMast Pistoleermost certainly has their place in the GCW and can be very strong especially when they have a doctor with them.
Silva Dor'Dali
CyberData4
Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:07 pm
#49
No, I think he's talking about Master Pistoleer. That's it. Not stacked with fencer, CM. rifleman, BH Pistol, Smuggler. Just a master pistoleer vs Master anything else with buffs and food and armor will almost always loose. Tactics are irrelevant when the combat system is broken. Lets just hope that after the balance pistoleers come out unscathed.
zoneof86
Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:02 pm
#50
Well im just glad i dont pvp... ppl own me in pvp even when im this close to master but oh well killing rebel npcs is good enough for me
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