Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Me (master pistoleer) did a little test with my friend (master rifleman)
realvorda
Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:52 am
#27
this proves what many of us have been saying for a long time..
Greatsails
Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:14 pm
#28
Pistoleer is a 2ndary profession to me (accuracy and speed mods only), so take my input for what it's worth. Maybe discussing today's combat mechanics is useful to help us all understand how to survive until the combat revamp comes out. But this thread has little other utility. Pointing out thatcombatclasses are not well balanced is less than profound. Rather than bemoan the state of today's combat mechanics, wouldn't it be more productive to justaccept that things are the way they are, realize that they won't be this way much longer, and seek out tactics that work in the meantime?
I always come to this board looking for threads about things that work, that I hadn't thought of. I just learned today that even though bleeds are badly nerfed, the initial damage done by the bleed is much higher now, to the tune of a better dps than our body shots. I plan to investigate this in detail tonight 
A relatively low percentage of the threads here are that productive though. Most are just complaints. I came this this thread thinking Imight uncover some new insights into how to conduct battle against a rifleman. Instead, I get a badly designed test that "proves" something we already knew.
A relatively low percentage of the threads here are that productive though. Most are just complaints. I came this this thread thinking Imight uncover some new insights into how to conduct battle against a rifleman. Instead, I get a badly designed test that "proves" something we already knew. Complain if it makes you feel better I guess. But it doesn't really accomplish much.
CriminalJabba
Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:12 pm
#29
Greatsails wrote:Pistoleer is a 2ndary profession to me (accuracy and speed mods only), so take my input for what it's worth. Maybe discussing today's combat mechanics is useful to help us all understand how to survive until the combat revamp comes out. But this thread has little other utility. Pointing out thatcombatclasses are not well balanced is less than profound. Rather than bemoan the state of today's combat mechanics, wouldn't it be more productive to justaccept that things are the way they are, realize that they won't be this way much longer, and seek out tactics that work in the meantime?I always come to this board looking for threads about things that work, that I hadn't thought of. I just learned today that even though bleeds are badly nerfed, the initial damage done by the bleed is much higher now, to the tune of a better dps than our body shots. I plan to investigate this in detail tonightComplain if it makes you feel better I guess. But it doesn't really accomplish much.
2ndary profession, YET it takes the same amount of SP as teras kasi
Greatsails
Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:44 pm
#30
And that was relevant to my post in what way?
CriminalJabba wrote:
2ndary profession, YET it takes the same amount of SP as teras kasi
CriminalJabba
Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:07 pm
#31
Greatsails wrote:And that was relevant to my post in what way?
CriminalJabba wrote:
2ndary profession, YET it takes the same amount of SP as teras kasi
because you are not the first person ive heard that uses pistoleer as their secondary/defense stacking prof
Greatsails
Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:12 pm
#32
It is actually 2ndary to my Smuggler (with Merchant tertiery). Nice guess, but judgemental and most notably, wrong.Thanks for playing today on Jump to Conclusions (name that movie).
vGeist
Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:46 pm
#33
the riflemen profession as a whole, and flame throwers are definitely out of balance with the rest of combat.
KnightHawk420
Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:24 pm
#34
Personally I find it too unfair to guage the DPS of fanshot when only in relation to a single player.
I'd rather argue to make stopping shot more damage, than to argue fanshot needs more damage.
Case in point, had a nice fight over the weekend in dearic. Right in front of the cloning center. For anyone that knows the area makes a nice little rectangular box.. At any rate the enemy had found themselves bunched up in 1 end of the "box". I took posistion at the opposite end, lined them up and opened up with fanshot.
A min or so later... got 3 or 4 incaps with it. Forced the remaining group to have to reconcentrate on killing me, gave my tka's, more than enough time to pound them into oblivion.
I went on much of the night just standing my distance fanshotting the crowd. Worked quite well.
Knowing this kind of capability exists I'd be hestitant, at least cautious to make any changes to the special in terms of damage increase.
Saret
Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:19 pm
#36
MCPrimetime wrote:
CriminalJabba wrote:
we both had buffs, no mind buffs tho.
Neither of us were wearing armor (ima wook)
We tested when he unequipped his weapon... took me over 1min to kill him spamming fan shot with a krayt repub!! 466 max!!!
then we tested it the other way round
i was dead in 1 second
drop CH and pick op a real profession, then see what happens.
LMAO!!!
llllMaverickllll
Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:53 am
#37
It is actually 2ndary to my Smuggler (with Merchant tertiery). Nice guess, but judgemental and most notably, wrong.Thanks for playing today on Jump to Conclusions (name that movie).
office space 
lorildeh
Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:06 am
#38
TopMerchant wrote:
because pistoleer is broken you idiots....dont cry please.....i haTe you nerf cries....you bastards ruin this game.....Rifleman TKA Fencer and some other professions arethe few proffesions workingCorrectly....dont try to nerf the other professions ....try to get your profession FIXED!
yea pistoleer is definitely broken.. but so is rifleman and it really does need a speed nerf.
anyways if TH were here all he'd say is "combat revamp"
Ryutek
Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:08 am
#39
When defense stacking is removed then it won't matter. There is no reason to pursue defenses from another profession as the only ones that will apply are the ones from the profession itself, or at least from my understanding.
MCPrimetime wrote:
CriminalJabba wrote:
this has nothing to do with CH
yes it does, waste of skillpoints you could use towards defenses.