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Thread: Me (master pistoleer) did a little test with my friend (master rifleman)
do you think someone who put the same amount of skill points into their profession should be a little more effective then my demonstration?
I've been a rifleman since launch and I'm thinking of switching to pistols(I need to do something different, getting bored with the game). Your description of what happened sounds like you may have left out some details.
For you to be dead in 1 sec.( which is 1 shot ), and the fact that you were buffed means that he used a headshot on you. You said you had no mind buffs, so that is an unfair comparison you did. You were shooting at a buffed pool(health) and he was shooting at an unbuffed pool(mind). Even shooting at the mind, to kill you in 1 shot means that your mind pool cannot be that high(I would guess around 800).
I do alot of PVP and my absolute highest hit was 1650ish with a Strafe2 (which is random pool), but that was the only time I have ever hit that high. If you were buffed, even that would not have killed you in 1 shot.
Also riflemen do have a bug, when they took away the 2.5 damage multiplier they were supposed to make us easier to get hit by melee. They coded it wrong and it actually makes us harder to get hit, but this is supposed to be fixed.
rifleman i didnt really enjoy at all untill master, up until that point i was slow, inaccurate and only really good if i had a form of tank to let me retain my distance for accuracy.
upon hitting master rifles the speed and accuracy difference was insane. i used a t21 (spd 7.2 without slice) for most of the time when i was master just cos i could fire specials at 1 sec with ease. yes faster than pistoleer.
also to bare in mind, that health is still the most targettable pool when using random specials or just plain random fire., if u sit n spam stopping shot over n over, health still is the most hit pool of the 3. what seemed to be upon testing that mind was the least hit on random ham shots.
anyway, drifting off the point here
as the other guy said, sounds like the rifleman friend u tested with hit u for a head shot, obviously attacked ur mind, which is unbuffed. u on the other hand are attacking with health shots and random ham shots, again more chance of hitting health, with action 2nd and mind in 3rd.
try the test again and get him to use conceal shot or strafe 2 (lol again tho, strafe is so powerful, and at master lvl can be spammed every sec so 2 random health hits and ull prolly be down anyway 3k ham or not heh)
one thing about rifles, strafe 2 is one of the best shots in game imho.......the dmg thats delt and it being an area attack is just supreme.
one other thing u could try, is getin to point blank range against the rifleman.......sitting way out is just asking for trouble. ur giving an unfair advantage to the rifleman being at optimal range for them to do most dmg. pistols imo in pvp is far far better when ur on the move shooting. just as rifles is the best prone 64m away and sniping.
did he use headshot on you? seeing as how you were shooting him with random ham pools that were buffed and had their regen buff, it doesnt surprise me it took you that long to kill him. if he killed you with 1 normal shot, id be shocked, but if he used head shot, you should have expected such. again, you were shooting at his buffed pools, he shot your unbuffed pool. why is this shocking?
CriminalJabba wrote:
we both had buffs, no mind buffs tho.
Neither of us were wearing armor (ima wook)
We tested when he unequipped his weapon... took me over 1min to kill him spamming fan shot with a krayt repub!! 466 max!!!
then we tested it the other way round
i was dead in 1 second
try the test again and get him to use conceal shot or strafe 2 (lol again tho, strafe is so powerful, and at master lvl can be spammed every sec so 2 random health hits and ull prolly be down anyway 3k ham or not heh)
one thing about rifles, strafe 2 is one of the best shots in game imho.......the dmg thats delt and it being an area attack is just supreme.
Also add into the equation that the pistoleer in this testis a wookie.
Strafe 2 with a T21 (AR3)against unarmored opponents= sick damage!
Col. Cristos Diaz
CriminalJabba wrote:
we both had buffs, no mind buffs tho.
Neither of us were wearing armor (ima wook)
We tested when he unequipped his weapon... took me over 1min to kill him spamming fan shot with a krayt repub!! 466 max!!!
then we tested it the other way round
i was dead in 1 second
Ok, let me get this straight. You attacked a buffed opponent using a random HAM special shot. It took you over 1 minute to kill him. Then, he attacked you and killedyou in 1 second. He's a rifleman? Uhh, did he by any chance shoot your unbuffed mind pool? If so, I fail to see what the problem is.
Maybe a little more forethought when you're testing. Example, if you're going to use a random HAM special, so should your opponent. Also, migrate both your stats so they are the same. Use the same damage type weapons, ie. both energy or both kinetic. Try to create as equal a situation as possible, keeping in mind - in actual combat, rarely are things equal.
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EddieBosox wrote:
That’s not a fair test. I’m not saying pistoleer works the way it’s supposed to, it doesn’t (as I recently found out firing stopping shot last night seeing it stop…nothing). But remember a master pistoleer has mad added benefits to firing while moving. You have to use the proper tactics for your profession. Not saying you’ll win, since pistoleer needs work, but it wont be as lopsided as you say I suspect.
This test was to demonstrate damage output.
Beside the point, apistoleer running around for a minute or morestands a snowballs chance in hell against a rifleman who only has to land 1-3 shots.
biwan:
Randonb wrote:
EddieBosox wrote:
That’s not a fair test. I’m not saying pistoleer works the way it’s supposed to, it doesn’t (as I recently found out firing stopping shot last night seeing it stop…nothing). But remember a master pistoleer has mad added benefits to firing while moving. You have to use the proper tactics for your profession. Not saying you’ll win, since pistoleer needs work, but it wont be as lopsided as you say I suspect.This test was to demonstrate damage output.
Beside the point, apistoleer running around for a minute or morestands a snowballs chance in hell against a rifleman who only has to land 1-3 shots.
exactly my point