Pistoleer Archive

Thread: BH's and their silly SP arguments......

deadnewbie
Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:04 am
#27

I'm not sure what flavor of crack Ypi is on but Fanshot doesn't target all 3 pools at once. Before we start commenting on each other's specials and how good/bad they are, can we at least try to describe their effect correctly?



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Reilec
Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:07 am
#28

Deadnewbie please, there is no need for you to flame ppl however light, do not argue for the sake of arguing. Making a big deal, and taking the time to actually count posts lol, over something someone emphasized is kinda silly. You can, of course, do what you will with your time. But at least try to give input that is at least more useful then those you flame or argue with.


Asking what kinda "crack" someone is on doesnt really help solve any issues.

Dyriel
Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:50 am
#29

The "Star Rater" strikes once again guys, someone 5 star rated all BH posts while all pistoleers ones are 1 star


No, not 100% of them are stupid but this one got the true winner's face





Btw, someone stated it was raining in Russia yesterday...
Bubbachuggins
Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:40 am
#30

Fortysevenman wrote:



im a master bh and i must say that, for all the work it was its crappy, commando is much easier to get and also a lot better, Don't go for bh its just not worth it.


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I've heard commandos say the same thing about BH. It's all about how you use your profession for what you like about it. Find something you like about the profession you chose and supplement and fill in the holes where you are lacking with other professions. I'm currently working on TKA, Pistoleer and Smuggler to supplement and fill in the holes where the Commando profession is lacking. It's all about how you use your profession.




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Auspeks
Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:47 pm
#31

/sigh


i am a BH, and i don't want or need anything changed on BH except for these two things:


1. move /eyeshot to master so people will shut up about it ( i never use it, anyways ).


2. fix Investigation.


so, yes...i suppose you could say i am demanding healing in BH line, and you could also choose to interpret this as me somehow saying i want to be able to smoke a pistoleer or carbineer with their own weapon. you could even decide that these requests equate to me wanting to be more powerful with heavy weapons than a commando...



...you'd just be talking out of your pooper.




give peace a chance, guys. a lot of us BH are actually on your side. i come to these forums to reply to Pistoleer threads with such dispicable and abhorent comments as:


1. fix the DX2, un-nerf the FWG5, or give the Pistoleer a viable AP option (SR Combat is a joke).


2. give Pistoleer a dmg + DoT shot, and a ranged KD...then put them in Marksmanship line.


3. Pistoleers could use more speed and accuracy.



and the funny part is, i don't have Novice Pistoleer.


i vastly prefer carbines, in fact--mostly because of the variation of special moves, and the fact that they have e11, elite, dxr6, and laser for AP options.


but...i can see that i'm going to be flamed for being a BH no matter what i do, and on a daily basis.


that's ok


i'll still lobby for POSITIVE changes to the Pistoleer profession, just because it's the right thing to do.


flame away...


/finger

Ypiana
Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:43 pm
#32

Fanshot does hit all three pools in one shot, mostly health, then action, then mind. When I was pistoleer that was my attack against anyone who had a low action or mind pool. Basically stopping shot until they had a pool down and then BS3 if health is down, fanshot for action or mind.


Scatter pistol is best pistol. With new changes it will be more in line with the DX2, and the FWG5s will be the domain of the newbie. Give it about 3 - 6 months before all the really good pre-nerf weapons are gone.


Personally, I think this is good because I prefer my laser carbine overmy pistol any day. 91-585 w/pup and I can spam specials once per second, AP2. Once you get used to carbines, pistols just seem like popguns.


After BH gets boring, probably once I have about 3 dozen Jedi initiates done killed, I'll be switching to carbines, then TKA and rifle. I love all the ranged weapons on this game and using all of them just teaches me how to be more effective with them.


But yeah, just for the sake of an argument, I would give up the BH pistol line in a second to replace it with everything pistoleers have. Once you sit down and think about it, all those accuracy and defense mods seem a little better.


Trust me, only retarded BHs run around spamming eyeshot. I haven't used eyeshot in PvP for probably two weeks, there are way more faster and efficent ways to kill people and people wear helmets too much to make it effective. I almost go load killed one time when I spawned next to an Imp BH. Just before getting on shuttle I was holding my carbine and decided to throw on my helmet. When I loaded I was in combat and he'd pumped 6 eyeshots into me. Once I knew what was going on I started to move. One legshot2 missed the guy, the second legshot two incapped him. In the process of pumping a total of 8 eyeshots into my helm he'd dropped his action bar so low I got him with one shot.


-- Ypi




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TheWhiteRaider
Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:43 pm
#33






deadnewbie wrote:
Neither does incorrectly describing a special's effect. Wepps used to go around saying Panic Shot caused a delays up to 20 seconds. I'd love to have someone prove that Panic Shot does that. However, every two-bit bounty hunter who couldn't count to 10 (this is a joke on Wepps inability to coun to 1 -- remember that one?) started going around quoting Wepps on it.

90% of Bounty Hunters don't know what they're talking about.





It used to be 20 seconds before a nerf. They nerfed it fast though, but as it is Panic shot is still a hard move to recover from and no way to defend against it. But see also not only can they Panic shot you what they do while you are running around defenceless is they Lowblow you and Last ditch you to death. I know because I have used this combo many times. If you get it to stick they are toast.


And also your inability to spell "count" isn't much better lol. I know it is just a typo. I get those all the time.




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SanTsu
Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:46 pm
#34

Now that terrain blocks shots, panicshot wont be as uber as it was. Im not saying its going to suck just that now there will be more ways to get away from the player while panic is still in effect.



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deadnewbie
Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:15 am
#35

Fanshot hits all 3 pools in one shot like all the other shots hit all 3 pools in one shot. I think Jaegen or Phil posted a the formula for all random HAM pool shot which describes the spread of damage across 3 pools on any random HAM pool shot.

It comes out like 80/10/10 spread or something very similar.

Saying Fanshot hits all 3 pools would be technically correct but then so does Kip-Up at that point, and roll shot, and dive shot, and low blow, and last ditch ...



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Philosopher1976
Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:24 am
#36






deadnewbie wrote:
Fanshot hits all 3 pools in one shot like all the other shots hit all 3 pools in one shot. I think Jaegen or Phil posted a the formula for all random HAM pool shot which describes the spread of damage across 3 pools on any random HAM pool shot.

It comes out like 80/10/10 spread or something very similar.

Saying Fanshot hits all 3 pools would be technically correct but then so does Kip-Up at that point, and roll shot, and dive shot, and low blow, and last ditch ...



That's right. Yet another reason I hate random HAM shots... although Jaegen and I both suspect (but have not tested) that the same thing happens with targeted pool shots. I have a list of about 20-30 things I've been meaning to test, and that's on the list somewhere.





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