Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Soloed: 3Ancient Grauls, one graul and a Rebel Lieutenant.

Hawaii5_o
Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:22 am
#27

The CREATURE is a CREATURE Handler's weapon. He was solo.


This game was designed so that there aren't a bunch of the same cookie cutter toons walking around. It lets you become something totally unique if you want. It's great! If you want to be a pure Pistoleer then that's your deal but don't bash on people who take up BH or CH or anything else to compliment their skills. It's called smart character planning. If you're a "pure" pistoleer then maybe you can't solo 3 ancient grauls, but that's the path you chose. Don't burst the guy's bubble just because you can't do it.




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Styphathal
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:08 am
#28






TshenQin wrote:





Styphathal wrote:





Bergalad wrote:
How do you solo with a pet? Especially a pet that seems to have done most of the work? Sounds more like the pet soloed and had you for sidekick. If you take this as a flame, so be it, but I don't understand saying you "soloed" something when you didn't. Nice fighting, but not a "solo".





So if he was purely a ch, had NO other combat skills, and his pets took out everything he described, would you still say that he didn't solo it? Soloing means one PERSON. one human being solod something. if his character can call a pet then that's a weapon at his character's disposal that's part of his character's power.


Gosh he was just sharing that he was happy with his character and fanshot. Why the sour grapes man? sheesh.









Solo means alone without the aid of a other player or NPC. Creature handles by default use NPC as weapons to avoid taking damage themselfs. Thats there class perk but it also means that they Solo as CH. Since thats something almost everybody and a monky can do makes it in the eyes of most not so remarkable. Does not mean we are not happy for him/her to do something like that.

Solo'ing divicult creatures alone unaided by PC or NPC sets for the rest a standard to try to achieve. To measure yourself against somebody else his skills at mastering the game, but also the strategy and tactics of fighting with a class.

The age old way to show your the biggest kid on the block with the hardest fist, taking your dog along to help does not count ;-)





Lol. well stated but I still say that isn't right because then it effectively makes it impossible for a CH to solo; even one who does not have any other combat capabilities. But what this really all boils down to is a semantic, subjective argument that cannot be concluded.


So hat's off to you but I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Ka-oan
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:46 am
#29



Hawaii5_o wrote:

The CREATURE is a CREATURE Handler's weapon. He was solo.






Funny, I've never seen a CREATURE use FanShot. His weapon was a PISTOL, his defense was the CREATURE. Ass.



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Inhocmark
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:55 am
#30

What's the big deal?



Are we going to now say that Oh if you have a Creature you shouldn't be allowed to fire a gun or if you have a gun your creature should just be window dressing. They spent the points to take the skill, the larger pets become available with heavy investing in the skill so it's viable and it is Soloing.



As far as PvE being too easy, the Devs do have to address it. Nerfing CHs or any other class isn't the answer, it's making MOBs a bit smarter.



Pack Mentality: If a mob has a pack mentality, the pack should be smart enough to call in reinforcements and to target all enemies attacking it. That doesn't mean it's going to be the most co-ordinated attacks, but some creatures, especially high end content should be given credit for their survival instints. Maybe even giving these mobs knockdowns of their own. ie. A Krayt Dragon uses it's sizeable weight advantage to toss aside a pet with no knockdown defense and then focuses on the owner.


Humanoids: High level humanoids should not stay in one place and wait for me to slaughter them. using different levels, trying to get out of the range of AOE attacks...etc.



I'm not saying make PvE impossible, that would be no fun. But forcing people to use strategies besides the Rinse/Repeat variety will benefit the game a lot. I'd love to see two storm troopers get out of the line of fire, circle behind me and try to catch me in a crossfire.





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Bergalad
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:57 am
#31

I say it one more time for those who can only call me "noob" and "dummy", he didn't solo anything. He had a good fight, but solo means by yourself no matter how you want to agrue it. A pet is in essence another player which soaks up damage from the target while the CH or whatever is free to fire from a safe position. Whether it's a Graul or an AT-ST you are using, there is another entity there with you which means by definition you are not solo.


Using a pet is not the same as a player who uses a blaster or sword to fight a mob. I can't get my carbine to stand on it's head when I yell "Trick 1!" no matter how hard I try. Using something else to tank a mob is not soloing. I never flamed the poster of this thread, and in fact said he had a good fight, but I didn't agree with his definition.




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xchristhegreatx
Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:31 am
#32

Yea, I agree you did it with a pet...that is not soloing. If you did that withouta pet then good job. BTW gruals have to be one of the easiest things to take down once you get stopping shot, because they're so **edit** slow. You just use suppression fire, health shot 1 and 2 and then stopping shot...you can kill the stupid thing before it gets back up lol



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DaHumAn
Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:45 am
#33

interesting how people have different definitions for soloing in mmorpgs =).




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dropslash
Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:24 pm
#34

Just cause he put his skill points into CH doesn't mean he didnt solo... Don't listen to'em man!! You did good!



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TshenQin
Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:15 pm
#35

Well lets agree there are 2 kinds of doing something solo :-)

CH solo and Solo....
Ypiana
Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:11 pm
#36

Get a carbine. Then you can solo 3 grauls without pets simultaneously. It's called fullautoarea2 and charge shot.


Or become Bounty Hunter. You KD the grauls when he's within melee range and then grab LLC and hit with LLC single 2. Grauls have no electricty resists so you can hit for 8000.


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-GKar-
Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:21 pm
#37

Definition of Solo.....Unaccompanied; alone


Using a graul mauler isnt being Alone now is it? granted it took him skill points to use it. But he was being accompanied by a creature, therefore....not solo.




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Styphathal
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:05 am
#38






Ka-oan wrote:





Hawaii5_o wrote:

The CREATURE is a CREATURE Handler's weapon. He was solo.








Funny, I've never seen a CREATURE use FanShot. His weapon was a PISTOL, his defense was the CREATURE. Ass.





He had 2 combat classes. He was using a weapon from each. There is no need to insult anyone here. sheesh.

Styphathal
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:09 am
#39






Bergalad wrote:

I say it one more time for those who can only call me "noob" and "dummy", he didn't solo anything. He had a good fight, but solo means by yourself no matter how you want to agrue it. A pet is in essence another player which soaks up damage from the target while the CH or whatever is free to fire from a safe position. Whether it's a Graul or an AT-ST you are using, there is another entity there with you which means by definition you are not solo.


Using a pet is not the same as a player who uses a blaster or sword to fight a mob. I can't get my carbine to stand on it's head when I yell "Trick 1!" no matter how hard I try. Using something else to tank a mob is not soloing. I never flamed the poster of this thread, and in fact said he had a good fight, but I didn't agree with his definition.







this is a semantic argument and is therefore, subjective. it all depends on one's personal definition of "solo". the poster considered himself solo since there was no one else there with him. Some disagree saying his pet was with him.


I've come to realize this entire argument, on both sides, is futile.

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