Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Ranged + melee defence.. c'mon this is getting sick..
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guyvii
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:38 am
#27
It seems that everyone wants to be a TKA. they have good to hit bonuses. make friends them and hit him with dizzy and knockdown. I thinks it was a good Ideal for the guy to build his defences up so good. I am guessing there are people that build there offences up almost has high so they can spam knockdown shots every sec. may not hit every time but if a person puts all his skills in defence , he is not doing the damage the offence stacked player has. The old school of war. can you really win being on the defence always ? You need offence to win. Now this guy with the super defence template will toast normal people, just as a bounty hunter with eye shots will toast anyone not ready to be blinded by a bullet to the head.
You just need a offence stacked template to fight the defence template. Offence does not need to hit every time . It only takes a few good shots to kill someone. Like, read the T-21 tread and the damage a person wanting to play machine gunner can do. There is a counter to everything. The question is ... do you happen to have that counter at the needed time. I wonder if area attacks are effected and how on a super defence target?
You just need a offence stacked template to fight the defence template. Offence does not need to hit every time . It only takes a few good shots to kill someone. Like, read the T-21 tread and the damage a person wanting to play machine gunner can do. There is a counter to everything. The question is ... do you happen to have that counter at the needed time. I wonder if area attacks are effected and how on a super defence target?
guyvii
Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:41 am
#28
Ok, call me a noob. but how will intimidate help you?
I know intimidate halves the damage of your oponent, but does it also lower his defense?
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The less damage he does means the more time you live, thus the more shots you get to try to hit him with the magic bullet that ends his glorious career. LOL
MarcBulger
Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:34 pm
#29
Scott_Ray wrote:
Just because you do not know how to use the skills that you have to beat him, doesnt mean a nerf is in order.
LMAO... wow, that post made me laugh for real. I guess he needs to work on his aim right? I mean since he has complete control over the chances of him hitting and all. I waste precious skill points to get nice special attacks all for naught. I try and hit people with these specials and nevertheless none of them hit and I'm the one that dies because he has all the defense for little to no costto hisoffense. I'm so tired of defense stacking. There are no special attacks that decrease defense except maybe stun, but stun requires you to actually hit them for it to work and thusly we return to the beginning of the vicious circle.
Belial
Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:06 pm
#30
Scott_Ray wrote:
However I do agree it is a bit too easy to stack, The Stances and Grips line in Fencer gives too much of both for the points, it needs to be spread out a little, as do dodge bonuses and other mods. Better than a nerf I think.
Stop with this spread out stuff, everybody wants everything spread out... geez this is a SKILL based game not a CLASS based game...
Maybe they should just cut down the skill points to 50 so no one can do anything but be one novice class
Katan1221
Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:20 am
#31
lol sorry I didn't read all the posts... only the first few... but a guy complaining about defence mods when he is a Fencer/Pistoleer is pathetic lol... considering you have what? 200 dodge? 100+ melee & ranged defenses? at master of both...Sounds to me as if you are just whining cause you have been beaten. The fact that he let you stand there and shoot at him for so long was a gift
Bumbleb33tuna
Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:40 pm
#33
MarcBulger FYI Dodge is capped and its not nearly as effective as the stack and btw there was a screenshot of a pistolier/bh 4 doing the exact same thing as me. Just saying its almost impossible to hit him thats all.
RaccaBoo
Sat Jan 24, 2004 10:51 pm
#34
bumblebee your a idiot. I have the same setup as you by the way is my justification for being able to call you a idiot 
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pyclone
Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:03 pm
#35
Scott_Ray wrote:
Yes and it isnt a template that is hard to beat if you know what to use, he has all the tools he needs available. And this is a template I have been working on since launch, but have been too busy with my mining business to work on itmuch, I'm finally getting high skills in both. So no attacks on my profession choice please.
Ok then what tool did i forget, i had a tkm / rifleman, at 1 mind from a poison, he's regular attacking i've missed 10 timesin arow at this point i kneel aim and use point plank attack four times still no hit.... SO what tool did i forget? oh you he managed to squeak enough mind ot kd / dizzy me and vk regular attack me to death
melee + range = sick and retarded programing
MutantSquirrel
Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:11 am
#36
I only read the main post before I decided to post this ....
DUDE, S T F U!!!!
Stop crying nerf, I hate you nerf crying whiners!!!
Higginsis
Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:24 am
#37
I know this sounds stupid, but switch to fencer, blind him and then Cob, then dizzy lunge1 and you are sorted, and don't say you can't do this to a tkm, i do it to my mate in duels all the time and i'm not even a master.
And i have met some of these template on my server (very rare though) and if i stay about 20m off they barely touch me, and i use my tangle pistol which hardly seems to miss at that range.
And i have met some of these template on my server (very rare though) and if i stay about 20m off they barely touch me, and i use my tangle pistol which hardly seems to miss at that range.
smw356
Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:52 am
#38
Niza wrote:
That template is weak against a BH/Pistoleer (fyi).
Even weaker vs a BH/Carbineer as neither rifle nor tk has worthwhile def vs dizzy
heimidal
Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:07 am
#39
My name is BeWary.. i am FOTM pistoleer/fencer... I am buffed 24/7... I GOT BEAT..NERF NERF NERF... I hate my life, please think I am the coolest because I do what every other L33T dood does...
you make me laugh, the perfect FOTM template and someone made something that beat you... hats off to the other guy, sounds like you ganged up on him anyway, and still got owned... there is a God and he hates you.
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