Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Pitoleer bh vs. high lvl jedi
BadgerSmaker
Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:28 am
#15
BeakerMike wrote:
At this point I don't think the CU will really fix anything thats wrong with the game. Tell the truth I'm thinking about dropping Pistoleer/BH for TKM/Fencer... There's no point to having ranged classes that miss in pvp, do less damage to the rest of the classes and have next to no defence... It's sad but melee looks to be where the game is heading...
Thanks, BeakerMike, ever the optimist. 
I'm getting cheeky, must be the nice weather today. 
Have faith in the CU... things really, and truely, can only get better.
BeakerMike
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:01 am
#16
Heh sorry Badger, 6 years on this other game that's owned by classes who chant "all kill" every 10 sec's can do that... I mean do I want to see ranged pistoleers and or BH's better in the long run? I do heh I like playing a Pistoleer/BH alot, just so far there's little info to go on about the CU...
BadgerSmaker
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:03 am
#17
I did three years of UO myself.
But this isnt EA... if it was I wouldnt be here.
"EA Games.... ruin everything!"
Message Edited by BadgerSmaker on 03-17-2005 03:44 PM
Zennez
Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:37 pm
#18
I find it hillarious that a man with his bare fists has a better chance (and hits every time i might add) of killing a JEDI than a BOUNTY HUNTER shooting frickin LASER beams... the real funny thing is teh bounty hunter proffesion is all ranged, and yet all ranged is nerfed to any jedi... so whats the point?
ThePredator85
Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:13 pm
#19
That's messed up. Jedi have 85% chance of blocking ranged weapons. If you shoot 100 times, only 15 will hit the Jedi. Buff Pistoleer - make it do more damage to Jedi when it hits Jedi, nerf Jedi block.
Plamer
Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:29 pm
#20
something needs to be done because bh skills which are all ranged are worthless agianst that kinda block
Quenx
Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:57 pm
#21
Your going by wat you see in pvp. Your seeing tkm and fencers do amazing.. y ? because they have godly items. how it is in every game i hate to say it. Your gonna go tkm and fencer and go YEA TIME TO OWN and your stun baton is gonna do 20 dmg.. and your gonna say oops.
Each class has its open advantages and disadvantages. The fact that you would reroll a profession that you like less just to do some more dmg is sad. Y play a game if its not for fun. and dont tell me your not having fun as pistols. Pistols can do some crazy dmg if u find the common TKM coming at u with kinetic armor. Or catch a imp/rebel off guard with no stun psg. :-/ Stand strong behind your prof. find wat makes us unique and diff. Develop diff strats vs jedi. IT is possible to beat jedi as ranged. its done everyday.
Each class has its open advantages and disadvantages. The fact that you would reroll a profession that you like less just to do some more dmg is sad. Y play a game if its not for fun. and dont tell me your not having fun as pistols. Pistols can do some crazy dmg if u find the common TKM coming at u with kinetic armor. Or catch a imp/rebel off guard with no stun psg. :-/ Stand strong behind your prof. find wat makes us unique and diff. Develop diff strats vs jedi. IT is possible to beat jedi as ranged. its done everyday.
Zhaal
Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:46 pm
#22
ThePredator85 wrote:
That's messed up. Jedi have 85% chance of blocking ranged weapons. If you shoot 100 times, only 15 will hit the Jedi. Buff Pistoleer - make it do more damage to Jedi when it hits Jedi, nerf Jedi block.
Yes, 85% of the time you'll miss... but the 15% of the time youdo hit, you'llhit for 100% of the damge.. no reductions at all.. Saberblock is the Jedi's only defense vs ranged, they get no defenses vs melee.. thats why BH/Melee have no trouble killinga Knight.
hamhamthe3rd
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:21 pm
#23
thats not entirely true. the class alone doesnt get any defensive mods butthere are disciplines they have access to which does grant def, the force defenses trees, and they haveaccess to force armor.also jedi have 2 types of toughness that work together but arent combined into a single raw number. jedi toughness and lightsaber toughness. lightsaber toughness works against everything just as melee toughness does.
Zhaal wrote:
ThePredator85 wrote:
That's messed up. Jedi have 85% chance of blocking ranged weapons. If you shoot 100 times, only 15 will hit the Jedi. Buff Pistoleer - make it do more damage to Jedi when it hits Jedi, nerf Jedi block.
Yes, 85% of the time you'll miss... but the 15% of the time youdo hit, you'llhit for 100% of the damge.. no reductions at all.. Saberblock is the Jedi's only defense vs ranged, they get no defenses vs melee.. thats why BH/Melee have no trouble killinga Knight.
Domo321
Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:33 pm
#24
the history of the ranged bh-
*Jedis whine on forums about bh beeing to powerfull
*Saber block is put up to 85%
*Jedis whine on forums about bh beeing to powerfull
*Saber block is put up to 85%
*BH get owned
*Bh whine for it to be put down abit
*Bh whine for it to be put down abit
*Devs say "wait till the cu see what happens"
*Jedi laugh at us
*Jedi laugh at us
yea a true story... i got told by a jedi the other day that she fights ranged bh unbuffed.
NOT FUNNY!
NOT FUNNY!
Plamer
Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:42 pm
#25
/Agree
Domo321 wrote:
the history of the ranged bh-
*Jedis whine on forums about bh beeing to powerfull
*Saber block is put up to 85%
*BH get owned
*Bh whine for it to be put down abit
*Devs say "wait till the cu see what happens"
*Jedi laugh at us
yea a true story... i got told by a jedi the other day that she fights ranged bh unbuffed.
NOT FUNNY!
Blankgrun
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:11 pm
#26
Quenx is dead right about this. You shouldn't take a profession because of how 133t or uber it is. You should take a profession and learn it. I hate to say it, but the average Joe (or Jane) is going to get stomped by a Jedi. They grinded a hell of alot to get to where they are and the average person is going to get blasted by them. Sure, the secret to taking one down is doing insane damage in a short period of time, but I've also seen the lowly pistoleer bend that pikeman or swordsman over his knee and give him a right solid spanking. The secret is to learn your profession instead of looking over the fence longing for what appears to be greener grass.
I know this from experience, if you pick up Teras Kasi, you'll be beyond annoyed that you are constantly dizzied and flopping around like an idiot. You'll also be annoyed when some newbie pistoleer spanks you because you decided to fight someone who's 64 meters away from you in an open field. With the system now, you can get nearly all of an 'ideal' template, but you aren't getting it from just one profession. Be ready to waste all of your skill points to get it.
As a final note, no one has mentioned that fire and bleedDOTs bypass the LS Block, as do knockdowns and all other status effects. Most of the Ranged BHs I've seen rely on these states rather than actual damage to defeat their foes. As Quenx said, learn about what you have and how it can help you. Instead of complaining about how you can't hit a Teras Kasi, maybe you should realize that the stun state in Smuggler's Last Ditch will cripple those defenses and leave him wide open. Or instead of spamming eyeshot next time against that Jedi, try Torso Shot or health shot 2 (Secret: Most jedi have some Jedi Healing, which allows them to heal all of their pools equally, including mind. Their livelyhood is in their force pool and if you can keep them healing bleeds and other states, you can very well burn that up)