Pistoleer Archive

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CrimeDog1 wrote:

First, a BH isn't a "generalist"...it's an elite hybrid profession meant to be the most potent offensive profession with a gun...

"And I think it's an insult to our profession thatso many pistoleers dabblein BH to get decent speed.Both profs should be stacking speed with Marksman, because they're both dependent on having Marksman first."

Pistoleers only need the pistol tree of marksman, BH's need Master Marksman...(you know, all four tree's).

"But I don't think BH pistol speed and Pistoleer pistol speed should be stackable...pistoleers should definitely get more speed so that they don't have to dabble in BH or buy those expensive/rare SEAs to shoot at a reasonable rate..."

Pistol speed is pistol speed period..doesn't matter what profession you are...a highly trained member of a SWAT team fires just as fast and accurate as a highly trained member of a special forces unit...to say one should be slower doesn't make sense...

"Of course, there's a potential question, and that is "how can you control which specials are fired from which guns", basically someone could argue that a BH could use Eye Shot with a scatter pistol (BH cert) or a Geo pistol (pistoleer cert) all the same. To answer this, I would propose that a special only be able to be fired with a weapon certified in the same profession that allows it. So a Scatter pistol wouldn't be used for Fan shot or Last Ditch attack and a DX2 wouldn't be firing Eye shot."

Specials are based on skill, its the person firing the shot who has attained "skill", its not the weapon itself equipped with some mysterious power allowing it to target a specific pool or land a specific state...(dizzy, blind, etc)...

As both a smuggler and Master pistoleer, I am tired of seeing pistoleer boxes stacked with other professions...I want pistoleers to be stand-alone like they were many months ago."

Pistoleers can stand alone all they want. We all have the same amount of skillpoints. This would be like saying a Policeman should'nt be allowed to train in martial arts for some close hand combat skill because it will interfere with his ability to use a pistol? lol...it's very realistic that a person can dabble in other professions and pick up some skill areas that are not exclusive to their main profession...

Combat revamp will fix some things and produce a whole round of new griping...find a prof, find what works, what makes you happy to play, and enjoy the game...

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Then why is it when you have an fwg5 equiped you can't use head shot even if you have the skill for headshot? It will tell you you do not have the right weapon equipped for that shot.

Correct on the second point to a degree. Sure the police can take up martial arts and defensive tactics. They are going to be more proficient in fire arms than martial arts because they have to practice with their firearms more often. They are going to be more proficient with a pistol instead of a rifle UNLESS they are on a SWAT team which is equipped with high powered rifles. Yes it is realistic that people should be allowed to dabble in other professions to complement their chosen profession, but just because I can break sombodies nose with my open palm doesn't mean I can dodge bullits that travel faster than the speed of sound.

In my opinion armor should protect from kenetic dmg only, but that's a whole other ball game. There are rounds that have the ability to penetrate the toughest body armor IRL. So the weapons in SWG should be able to cut through any personal body armor. That's just my opinion though.

Personally I think any type of stacking should be limited.

Stacking should be allowed from the basic profession to the elite profession but elite professions should not stack off each other.

That goes for speed, dodge..everything

I have no problem with the same skill being using in multiple prof like BH or smuggler. They spend the points for it. What I got a problem with is what is supposed to be a slower firing weapon/prof like rifleman has a higher speed mod then us. Our tops out at +74, and rifleman is +90. Shouldn't that reversed. And people wonder why master rifleman can fire just as fast as we can, at more range, doing 4-5 tmes the damage. There is your answer.

Anyone know how much of a speed bonus carbineers get at master? Personally pistoleer should get the highest speed bonus of those three prof. Then carbineers, then rifleman. With only smuggler or only BH, they should come in lower, by say 20 or so, then pistoleer only.

A BH for example, yea spent a lot of points to get there, but they have multiple types of weapons they use. Pistols, carbines, and heavy weapons. So they are spreading out their time and experiene and skills to get a broader range of usefullness in weapons. Fine. But someone that only uses pistols, spends all of their time mastering them and nothing else, and thus limited to only pistols, should be better and faster then a BH. Thus pistoleer should get a higher accuracy mods, and higher speed mods then BH, and Smuggler.