Pistoleer Archive

Thread: My 10 minute War with a Master Fencer...

Metherian
Wed May 26, 2004 1:40 pm
#14

Interesting story.


You used Last ditch, Force of Will, Intimidation .... (Smuggler/TKA/Brawler) ... then started Health Bleeds/KD's, which you quickly gave up ...so that you could continue with .... Last Ditch.


Did you use any pistoleer skills at all? Also, as some other people have said, all it takes is one stim B to wipe away all of your hard work.Oh, and what kind of stun baton/specials was he using against you that you were able to last as long as you did? Did he use any bleeds, knockdowns, etc.? Was he even trying to hurt you? LoL

Morath360
Thu May 27, 2004 10:36 am
#15






Metherian wrote:

Interesting story.


You used Last ditch, Force of Will, Intimidation .... (Smuggler/TKA/Brawler) ... then started Health Bleeds/KD's, which you quickly gave up ...so that you could continue with .... Last Ditch.


Did you use any pistoleer skills at all? Also, as some other people have said, all it takes is one stim B to wipe away all of your hard work.Oh, and what kind of stun baton/specials was he using against you that you were able to last as long as you did? Did he use any bleeds, knockdowns, etc.? Was he even trying to hurt you? LoL






You think that just because I didn't use fan shot or stopping shot that I used no Pistoleer skills? How about Dodge, Pistol speed 74, accuracy, Defense vs KD, ranged and melee defenses. How about the cert needed for the Geo Pistol. You obviously didnt read any of what I wrote earlier about how pistols work with other professions. Last DItch is nothing without Pistols.


You can try to question my bro's weaps all you want but he has very good ones. I will have to check when I get home from work for the specifics. But to reiterate, I was hit with blind mind poison and I was postured and kd a few times and intimidated.Thefact is I was prepared with foods and spices andproper armor. And if you would have read earlier you would have seen my comments about meds. Anyone who gets novice medic for stim b's will do so at a much greater expense to skills used in another areas.


Again, I think pistols need help, but the continual whinningthat we are no good at all when I know in fact that we can at least last a very long time against tough opponents is just a bunch of junk. If you are dieing in less than a minute then you simply are not prepared.


BTW my prenurf dx2 acid pistol seemed to do a fair amount of damage last night. We need to keep testing and see what we can do with pistols..




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DaHumAn
Thu May 27, 2004 1:05 pm
#16

if you were master pistoleer with bh you would have owned his ass really fast since you can stack bleeds fire dot his@zz and mind shoot him into hell with that geo at 1 sec a shot w/155 accuracy off the bat, his combat eq wont even matter at that point. but your templet is very good for pve regardless since you can meditate and FD. guess you cant have everything. but that shows how pistoleers are kinda gimp since you only mentioned dodge. there is practically no diff in between LD and SS btw, my friend and I did some tests and found out that the dps was pretty much the same which was kinda sad actually. but PS, LB, and FD are all good skills to have i guess.



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DaHumAn
Thu May 27, 2004 1:06 pm
#17



sorry this forum works like junk and i double posted

Message Edited by DaHumAn on 05-27-2004 04:07 PM



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MachineZed
Fri May 28, 2004 12:05 am
#18






Morath360 wrote:

BTW my prenurf dx2 acid pistol seemed to do a fair amount of damage last night. We need to keep testing and see what we can do with pistols..







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Obed
Fri May 28, 2004 5:52 am
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DaHumAn wrote:


there is practically no diff in between LD and SS btw, my friend and I did some tests and found out that the dps was pretty much the same which was kinda sad actually. but PS, LB, and FD are all good skills to have i guess.






When I was testing 'em, I found a little bit of difference, but not much. Once you can spam LD at 1 sec, there's a BIG difference though. Check out the stats on killyourpc.org. Not to mention that LD has a stun effect on top of it's hard hitting goodness.




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ganesh666
Fri May 28, 2004 6:43 am
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DaHumAn wrote:
if you were master pistoleer with bh you would have owned his ass really fast since you can stack bleeds fire dot his@zz and mind shoot him into hell with that geo at 1 sec a shot w/155 accuracy off the bat, his combat eq wont even matter at that point. but your templet is very good for pve regardless since you can meditate and FD. guess you cant have everything. but that shows how pistoleers are kinda gimp since you only mentioned dodge. there is practically no diff in between LD and SS btw, my friend and I did some tests and found out that the dps was pretty much the same which was kinda sad actually. but PS, LB, and FD are all good skills to have i guess.





No you wouldn't, i'm a master fencer, and i beat a bh pistoleer very easily, they have no melee mitigation. All thats required for these fights is a decent stun helm as most will spam eyeshot. We were both buffed and i incapped him very quickly, his eyeshots didnt make much of a dent on my mind.
Niklesnitz
Fri May 28, 2004 7:33 am
#21

While I agree that this was a good story, it seems that you used pistoleer as your secondary profession and used its passive traits to help you.





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ViithSamoor
Fri May 28, 2004 2:59 pm
#22

I think in this game there were meant to be combat professions and support professions. It's becoming more and more clear that pistoleer is a support profession. Master pistoleer is OK, but only "good" when coupled with smuggler, BH, commando, TK, what have you. I think that hoping for Master pistoleer to ever become a viable on it's own combat profession is an increasingly distancing dream. Now, all that being said, i have no problems with this, but it does mean that I'll probably be a more effective player/combatant as a master pistoleer/ doctor or combat medic. /shrug
NaKitNa
Fri May 28, 2004 4:17 pm
#23

Hopefully the CB will straighten this out. For our points we should be getting a lot more. I am not saying pistoleer is worthless, its just that we for our points spent, dont compare at this point. Intimidate helped you right from the beginning. Once we get specials fixed and if we can get something like I have detailed in my other posts about AP specials would really help us be our own.

GrammatonClericX
Sat May 29, 2004 5:39 am
#24

We do need our specials fixed. But pistol alone will not cut it. I personally have master pistol, commando 0/0/4/0, TKA 0/0/0/4, fencer 1/0/0/0and novice medic (would go tka 4/0/0/4 but like being able to get novice scout to help out friends and wake the incaped when I need to hehe.)


All I do is DOT them with flame and switch to pistol where my 120 dodge comes in handy.I'll use BodyShot3 and HealthShot 2 after that, only problem im having is what non health attack should I use...Fan Shot or Stoping Shot. What do you all use?


As for weapons most time im using my pistol laucher (get from commando line) or sonic blaster forPvP and dx2 or laucher for PvE.
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