Pistoleer Archive

Well if all the pistoleer was only good because of disarmshot2 then the class wasnt working very good in the first place and the pistoleer Correspondent should have noticed this and pointed it out. But i'll guess it will be ok when we can have pistols in holsters and twirl them around.

Stupid is as stupid does.........

I feel that if you master a weapon you should not be able to get better with it. Bounty Hunters should have a few tricks up their sleeves, but not to the point where they can out perform someone who has specialized in that weapon.

Also if you are a master pistoleer why can't you use all pistols? Was there a lesson I slept through and missedin pistoleer school?

Bounty Hunters are supposed to be cunning, smart, and self reliant. They are not supposed to beunstoppable armies of destruction. Remember just because you're a bounty hunter, you'renot Jango or Boba fett. They were gods at what they did. That's doesn't mean you can do what they were able to do. You can be a small reflection of them, but not a duplicated image. When people become jedi, they aren't going to be luke skywalker or yoda.

The BH should have a couple more techniques than a pistoleer, but they should be even to/less effective than a pistoleers.However nerfing the BH into submission, isn't necessary. I do though feel thatsome "tweaking" is in order to bring BH toa more even pace with the other professions, but still bea tough character.

Well I hope this ranting/whining showed somebody something.

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1234Taz wrote:

Well if all the pistoleer was only good because of disarmshot2 then the class wasnt working very good in the first place and the pistoleer Correspondent should have noticed this and pointed it out.

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This is exactly what happened. Our only good shot was DA2. Mostly because at least 4 of our moves do not function AT ALL, and neither do our defensive bonuses. How can we demand balance based solely on a few moves that work, without taking into account those features of our profession that don't work yet? We cannot. So we asked for those moves to be fixed in our very first issue report. We packed our issue report with as many bugs as they permitted us to send in.

Those 4 moves are still broken today, and defenses seem to be too, making it largely impossible to balance our class STILL without us knowing how they are going to fix them. And in addition they are now changing the moves that do exist, which will make it even harder to balance...

Most Pistoleer skills are not random pool attacks.

Double tap, Fan shot, and Body Shot Are A Few Great examples, Fan shot itself is very good attack.

Eye shot is good but using spice, foood, wearing a helmet, putting a few more points into mind, can even it out a bit.

If you think you have it bad with pistoleer, do us ALL a big favor.

Play as a rifleman or a commando, or even a teras kasi artist on a different server, then come back and tell us how bad pistoleer is.

Really seems to me the people here should be trying to get the pistol specials fixed then start bit**ing about whether they are to powerful or not powerful enough. Boosting their power when their specials (and possibly defenses) are broken will only make it so you get nerfed later once they finally fix the specials.

Definition: \Pis`to*leer"\, n. [Cf. F. pistolier.]
One who uses a pistol. [R.] --Carlyle.

Novice Pistoleer - The novice pistoleer gains significant improvements in short-range firearms along with a series of special abilities for nearly every situation.

Master Pistoleer - The master pistoleer has gained significant improvements in short-range firearms along with a series of special abilities for nearly every situation.

I see absolutely nothing describing this profession as being "the best profession using a pistol". It doesn't even mention anything about being an effective PvPer. For those who say pistoleers should be better than a BH or even comparable:

Master Bounty Hunter - The master bounty hunter can effectively track down and ELIMINATE almost any opponent.

See? In their description it says eliminate. We can handle situations. There is absolutely NOTHING inherently superior about pistoleers in regards to the use of pistols against other people.

Did i miss something? I thought Body Shot 1-3 wasPistoleers only pool specific attack (not counting bleeds).

Eye shot counters: Spice/food, Helmet, migrate

Body Shot Counters: Spice/food, Torso Armor, migrate, Doc Buffs, Medic heals.

I'm not getting into BH vs. Pistoleer argument. But if you want to tell me ways to counter Eye Shot to make it look like it doesn't give you an edge is rediculous.

Nice way to screw up a post Belldandy...

Fanshot and Doubletap are both "random ham" attacks. Bodyshot2 is better then BS3, BS2 is a freaking marksman skill. Geez... get off our board you stinking uninformed BHs.

People are thinking as if this is a class-based system. It is a system based on skill sets. One can mix and match.

Move past the limits of thinking that any profession is anything other than a collection of skills that can be accessed in a particular order at a particular xp cost.

The bestpistol user will be the character with the highest skill mods, best weapon, and best special moves.It's not a question of profession. Professions are just labels.

I really do think that a lot of the 'pistoleer are overpowered' comes from the fact that at low levels, we are quite good in comparison to the other classes. This is more a function of the pistol rather than our actual skills. Other people see the combat logs and tons of fast decent damage numbers coming from pistoleers and what else but feel jealous. And pistol whip is fairly easy to get. The unfortunately problem here is that our superiority is shortlived. No ranged knockdowns, no status effecting specials, broken defenses, subpar pistoleer weapon, etc, etc, and soon enough, our power is comparison is far worse.

And to rant a bit, why in the world do we not get any specials with status ailments? Especially after we lose DA2, I'm just imagining a conversation going like this:

Newbie: Ooh, wow, a master pistoleer! Show me something cool and unique!
Master Pistoleer: Errr...
Newbie: But you are a master! You must have something nice!
Master: Errr...
Newbie: But a smuggler can knockdown from far away, stun and freeze people!
Master: Errr...
Newbie: And a bounty hunter can knockdown from far away too! And has other cool stuff!
Etc...etc...

There is some immensely wrong here in the design of our class. I don't care if the BH or smuggler are supposed to 'tricks' up their sleeves. Give me a break. With very little pistol experience, they can knockdown at ranged, but somehow a MASTER pistoleer with millions and millions of pistol experience can't do anything!

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AssassinRei wrote:
Most Pistoleer skills are not random pool attacks.

Double tap, Fan shot, and Body Shot Are A Few Great examples, Fan shot itself is very good attack.

Eye shot is good but using spice, foood, wearing a helmet, putting a few more points into mind, can even it out a bit.

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Are you even a pistolteer? If you are and you dont know that double tap/fan shot/stopping shot hit random pools then you are simply misinformed. They do all indeed hit random pools and OFTEN do hit random pools. So much so does fan shot hit random pools Ive got many kills from the action bar!! Truth be told only bodyshot hits only the health bar and bodyshot2 is more effective than bodyshot3!

Delim (Valcyn)