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Thread: Corrected...sticking with Pistol for a bit

MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 8:35 am
#14






SilentJay1284 wrote:
I said 1v1. Its very easy. He a doctor, KD2. Apply dizzy. Apply dizzy every other hit. Apply all your states. Re-apply all your states every 10 hits. Used Combo2. If he stands, lunge1. Repeat til dead. KD, on the floor, with stun, "drops resists" to about 30%. Nothing can win. O yeah, check to see if he/she has stun protection on the chest piece. If they dont, apply all states, keep dizzy, spam healthshot2 with ur 350+ Geno Pistol with dizzy being every 3rd or 4th hit.






Try this against someone running a cure state macro. Silent, I know this works against 98% of people, but it's the other 2% I am concerned with beating. Being able to dizzy/kd a fencer/doc is close to impossible. And as far as heath pools go, if they are 4-0-4-0 doc, they will be able to heal as quick as you can deal the blows.



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Vingr
Wed May 05, 2004 8:46 am
#15




The kd/dizzy then switching over to the geo work pretty well. I use a 422 max damage geo I've haven't been able to get any powerups to test the maximum potential. I regularly hit people for around 500 dmg with last ditch when their standing, when down I've seen the number near 1000. It certainly scares the crap at of some doc's when you take half their buffs away in a few shots. If they have a dot weapon though you’re pretty much a goner with this template.





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SilentJay1284
Wed May 05, 2004 8:50 am
#16






Vingr wrote:




The kd/dizzy then switching over to the geo work pretty well. I use a 422 max damage geo I've haven't been able to get any powerups to test the maximum potential. I regularly hit people for around 500 dmg with last ditch when their standing, when down I've seen the number near 1000. It certainly scares the crap at of some doc's when you take half their buffs away in a few shots. If they have a dot weapon though you’re pretty much a goner with this template.






For me, only if the dot hits my mind. I went forMedic 0-0-4-0 (800 to 1200 heals, always good)



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MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 9:06 am
#17






SilentJay1284 wrote:

A FENCER DOC IS ONE OF THE EASIEST TO KILL ! ! !


Begin with Intimidate, then a combo2, then a dizzy, then a combo2, then a KD. From there, apply stun and blind. If you are dizzy/kneeled, switch to ur pistol until dizzy wear offs, or hell, just get KD. He can't do damage. He has too many states. Keep it going. Combo2 is ur friend. It might take a while, but you won't lose if you know what you are doing. Why? More than half the fight is having the doc curing his states, and like a little mofo you keep putting them back on. When on the floor from a dizzy KD, just juggle the KD like normal. Spam combo2, states, and dizzy. Keep the dizzy on when KD. Cause if they do thier macro where they stand up and cure thier dizzy, you will be right there spamming the dizzy attack for them to fall again.


I am starting to wonder what makes you a good pvp'r if a fencer/doc/etc scares you. Only fear the CM.







Silent, I understand it's possible to take them down 1 on 1. But you have explained the entire problem...look at the work you need to go through to do it. What you have just explained is more often than not a 3-5 minutes duel. I have moved more to group PvP as I got bored searching for people, and I think this is where I started to faulter the most.If I have to deal with more than one person at once, I am done for (talking about elite enemies).


Like I said, I still win 98% of duels. But I can tell youit's more like 60% in group battles. 1 on 1 is no longer the end game for me.


I dunno, maybe I am bored...I have tried too many pistol templates.





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Eked
Wed May 05, 2004 9:09 am
#18

what are your skills again mc? I do quite well in group battles... maybe the issues you discussed havent hit Valcyn yet.



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MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 9:22 am
#19






Eked wrote:
what are your skills again mc? I do quite well in group battles... maybe the issues you discussed havent hit Valcyn yet.





master pistol and tka, dirty 4, 4-0-3-0 fencer



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Eked
Wed May 05, 2004 9:27 am
#20

whats your fighting style? do you kite mostly or do you mix it up and run in to use tk/fencer? Reason I ask is Im a crazy kiting crazyman and that seems to work best with pistol (Inmy experience). Do you recieve most of your damage while fighting up close?



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MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 9:40 am
#21






Eked wrote:

whats your fighting style? do you kite mostly or do you mix it up and run in to use tk/fencer? Reason I ask is Im a crazy kiting crazyman and that seems to work best with pistol (Inmy experience). Do you recieve most of your damage while fighting up close?






always depends on the person i am fighting.



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Eked
Wed May 05, 2004 9:42 am
#22

thats one reason i love group fights.. i can stand back and use fanshot... then once I set my sights on one person (or if and whenthat one person sets his sightson me) I can spam eyeshot while kiting.. I do this same technique on pretty much everyone and so far its been pretty effectve.



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Morath360
Wed May 05, 2004 10:00 am
#23






MCPrimetime wrote:





SilentJay1284 wrote:

A FENCER DOC IS ONE OF THE EASIEST TO KILL ! ! !


Begin with Intimidate, then a combo2, then a dizzy, then a combo2, then a KD. From there, apply stun and blind. If you are dizzy/kneeled, switch to ur pistol until dizzy wear offs, or hell, just get KD. He can't do damage. He has too many states. Keep it going. Combo2 is ur friend. It might take a while, but you won't lose if you know what you are doing. Why? More than half the fight is having the doc curing his states, and like a little mofo you keep putting them back on. When on the floor from a dizzy KD, just juggle the KD like normal. Spam combo2, states, and dizzy. Keep the dizzy on when KD. Cause if they do thier macro where they stand up and cure thier dizzy, you will be right there spamming the dizzy attack for them to fall again.


I am starting to wonder what makes you a good pvp'r if a fencer/doc/etc scares you. Only fear the CM.







Silent, I understand it's possible to take them down 1 on 1. But you have explained the entire problem...look at the work you need to go through to do it. What you have just explained is more often than not a 3-5 minutes duel. I have moved more to group PvP as I got bored searching for people, and I think this is where I started to faulter the most.If I have to deal with more than one person at once, I am done for (talking about elite enemies).


Like I said, I still win 98% of duels. But I can tell youit's more like 60% in group battles. 1 on 1 is no longer the end game for me.


I dunno, maybe I am bored...I have tried too many pistol templates.








The other thing that he is forgetting is Thakitillo. I have never been knocked down with it. Not even with my armor off.



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Eked
Wed May 05, 2004 10:14 am
#24

I just thought of one good reason to keep pisoleer for pvp... keep the tag up on your toon and your enemy will not attack you first thinking youre no threat.



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SilentJay1284
Wed May 05, 2004 11:05 am
#25

Group PvP is simple. Say on voice chat: kill this guy that then guy now shoot this guy hey get this one off me and kill him too.



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Randonb
Wed May 05, 2004 11:24 am
#26

We'll miss you MC. I hope you stick around a bit.


So what is going to replace Pistoleer/Smuggler? That's a lot of skill points to throw around. Doctor?






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