Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Corrected...sticking with Pistol for a bit
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MCPrimetime
Tue May 04, 2004 8:44 pm
#1
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 05-04-2004 11:45 PM
The PvPers of bloodfin have convinced me to stick with it a while. I guess I have become a pistoleer novetly act.
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 05-05-2004 09:41 PM
Easy-Exanip
Tue May 04, 2004 10:16 pm
#2
The extreme armour is killing everybody. 80-90% armour is too good. So this makes doctor look even better and any class that has stun weaponry.
MCPrimetime wrote:
Many of you know me as the PvP guy for Pistoleers...and this is the only reason I am bothering to post this. I have been a Pistoleer since August, and all I do is PvP.It is sad for me to do this, but I have to to stay competitive in PvP.
I consider myself one of the best PvPers on Bloodfin...hell I have pretty much got promoted up the imperial ranks purely through death blows. I always evolved my template with the times, and was able to compete on the highest level...always with pistoleer. SOE's new obsession with DOT's has basically nerfed us more than we know. With the def stacking craze came the CM craze to counter it, which in turn came the Doctor craze of today. Many of your servers may have not eveolved to this stage yet....but Bloodfin has. My greatest PvP fears have come true...You can no longer kill someone that is a doctor unless they cannot deal damage (e.g., pistoleers). I have begun to rely on my tka/fencer skills more, which means it is time to drop pistoleer. The defenses are not worth it anymore if I can't kill anything.
I have been dueling rifle/doc's, fencer/docs and pike/docs for 2 weeks now, and as long as the are running COB and healstate macros, they are nearly invinclible to ANY pistoleer combo. Meanwhile, I am dying from DOT's and mind shots. On Bloodfin, everyone pvping has 39% stun helms and 80-90% comp, so TKA's and Pistoleers have all but died on our server (Carbineers were already dead). Basically that means that the only way to win is through mind pool, so we have to rely on random pool attacks (fan shot/stopping shot/last ditch). Eye shot is usless now with everyone mind buffed, synthsteak, PSG'sand drinking brandy.
I will sleep on it over night, but I have to say I am very upset that SOE has allowed one of theonly true Star Wars professions to become usless in PvP. Fencer/Doc is calling my name......undodgeable scatter hit 2 and no more CM's to worry about.
Pistoleer remains a good PvE profession, and I hope you all give RandonB your support in helping fix the profession.
Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 05-04-2004 11:45 PM
pnjpenguin
Tue May 04, 2004 10:21 pm
#3
I've been through what you're going through, I'm an avid pvper as well. I could never drop pistoleer though, I always just find a new way to evolve my template. Currently I'm using the BH pistol line for eyeshot, which is pretty helpful, but I could never hope to challenge a fencer or rifleman. All I can say is that you should stick with pistoleer, duel wheild may just be the answer to our woes.
Zandergeef
Tue May 04, 2004 10:32 pm
#4
The same thing is happening on the kettemoor server.. The best people are the people who have the uber looted DOT weapons that can attack the mind pool. People have picked up doctor to combat the cm's etc.. I dont pvp myself but I hear what you are saying.. the only way for a pistoleer to win is to get a super uber genosian pistol and pray to get some nice mind shots... You cant compete unless you are able to get the uber looted DOT weapons. All the devs say is wait till the combat revamp.
Gunga000
Tue May 04, 2004 10:35 pm
#5
I with you on this. I really love using pistols and i started a new character that i'm gonna make a pistoleer. My problem is i can't decide what else to do, bh pistol line or smuggler pistol line. I have a problem because i can't decide which will be better for pvp. There is no way around it, pistoleer just can't compete. Maybe the dual wield will help but your right on with the fencer docs. I just can't make one of those, doesnt fit me. I'm a pistol guy. I'll work to master pistoleer first and then wait for the combat changes to take place and then make my decision. I also have a master bh (useless in pvp) and a master smuggler. So i have some perspective from their pistol lines, i just cant for the life of me figure what to add to master pistoleer. I don't want to be a melee/doc but i agree they rule pvp now.
_Paclya_
Wed May 05, 2004 4:14 am
#6
The whole PvP system is broken anyway (due to armor, buff and prof imbalance).
Just try to enjoy the game in other ways than PvP till publish 10 arrives
Just try to enjoy the game in other ways than PvP till publish 10 arrives
MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 5:54 am
#7
pnjpenguin wrote:
I've been through what you're going through, I'm an avid pvper as well. I could never drop pistoleer though, I always just find a new way to evolve my template. Currently I'm using the BH pistol line for eyeshot, which is pretty helpful, but I could never hope to challenge a fencer or rifleman. All I can say is that you should stick with pistoleer, duel wheild may just be the answer to our woes.
I fear that all that is likely to be is an artistic improvement. I can always regrind pistoleer in a day or two if need be.....
Whisk3y
Wed May 05, 2004 7:08 am
#8
Sorry to see you lose pistoleer mate, and thank you for you PvP temp guides they came in handy to me and made for very good reading!
I really love my temp atm (see sig) but agree the amount of fencer/rifleman there are now unless i am fighting PvP noobs or in a group, 1 v 1 is a joke for my temp. In a group i do however make a valuable member tho being able to hit both health/mind, plus with my temp taking up so many SP my defence is so weak!
We need some love off SOE as most people i knowwho had any pistoleer in there temp have now dropped it!
EcadMistflier
Wed May 05, 2004 7:26 am
#9
To be honest I have stopped pvp for the sake of pvp. I will assist in the defence of our bases but pvp for the sake of pvp is dead. I will not be one of the sheep following along with every 13 year old who wants to just be the latest uber dood. I enjoy pistols. I am going to wait here until they roll out the combat revamp then see how f***ed up it is and then see whether I will change my template or move on to other galaxies far far away. Hey maybe they will even come out with a real star wars galaxies game some day. Hmmmm.....
Byor
Wed May 05, 2004 7:33 am
#10
Kevie wrote:
/sniff
when we're useful again you'll come back, right?
/cry
When devs remove the cheff food and the damage mitigations. Damage mitigation its the way for be invulnerable to pistoleers
SilentJay1284
Wed May 05, 2004 8:04 am
#11
Go TKA/Pistoleer/Smuggler and enjoy the power of never losing 1v1.
MCPrimetime
Wed May 05, 2004 8:24 am
#12
SilentJay1284 wrote:
Go TKA/Pistoleer/Smuggler and enjoy the power of never losing 1v1.
Thats what I am.
90% armor>TKA
Doctor>Pistoleer
SilentJay1284
Wed May 05, 2004 8:30 am
#13
I said 1v1. Its very easy. He a doctor, KD2. Apply dizzy. Apply dizzy every other hit. Apply all your states. Re-apply all your states every 10 hits. Used Combo2. If he stands, lunge1. Repeat til dead. KD, on the floor, with stun, "drops resists" to about 30%. Nothing can win. O yeah, check to see if he/she has stun protection on the chest piece. If they dont, apply all states, keep dizzy, spam healthshot2 with ur 350+ Geno Pistol with dizzy being every 3rd or 4th hit.
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