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Thread: Attention Pistoleers: People Laugh in PvP Quite Hard about Your Profession

Rylock
Sun Jun 06, 2004 6:01 pm
#14

Pistoleers are still over-powered I mean come on. How many other professions right now can say they can kill a butterfly without dying. Yeah pvp is one thing because your fighting players.. but if you want to be Uber try soloing a huurton with pistols, you may be able to kill one but if you have 4 on you, I hope you have a punch card cause your time is up.
echoHound
Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:36 am
#15

The pistoleer who stands still is a foolish pistoleer. I "dance like a butterfly sting like a bee!", and no un-armored melee can touch me! I pawn master swordsmen like they're made of cardboard! Anyone who says pistoleer sucks in PVP doesn't play pistoleer correctly. I dodge every-other hit, and my knockdown defense is so high I laugh at the poor fool wasting his specials on me. Once our specials are fixed (stopping shot actually knocking-down something) we'll be unstoppable against unarmored targets. Now armor, well, that's another story. No heavy or even medium AP sucks, but that's the trade-off I guess.


Balor, Starsider


Master Pistoleer/Master Marksman





Balor
Imperial Colonel
MarcBulger
Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:46 am
#16






echoHound wrote:

The pistoleer who stands still is a foolish pistoleer. I "dance like a butterfly sting like a bee!", and no un-armored melee can touch me! I pawn master swordsmen like they're made of cardboard! Anyone who says pistoleer sucks in PVP doesn't play pistoleer correctly. I dodge every-other hit, and my knockdown defense is so high I laugh at the poor fool wasting his specials on me. Once our specials are fixed (stopping shot actually knocking-down something) we'll be unstoppable against unarmored targets. Now armor, well, that's another story. No heavy or even medium AP sucks, but that's the trade-off I guess.


Balor, Starsider


Master Pistoleer/Master Marksman






Lol, I could dominate an unarmored target hands down. But since no one goes armorless anymore, I'm useless.




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Kaabezza
Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:47 am
#17



Ternque01 wrote:
Pistoleer is a joke. When I shoot someone with my 1.5 million geonosian pistol, it tickles them.



I'm a Master Pistoleer. I'm also a novice TKA 2 2 3 3 and I own the same things I own with pistoleer. I take on red things and take them out easily in most cases. I once took out a camp of Junta Shamens by myself with no vibroknuckler. I tried the same thing with my pistols and died LOL.

I also refuese to pay 1.5 mill for a weapon. I've never seen one that was worth that much. The cost : benifit ratio is just too low, but I guess that's just me.



We don't have time to discuss this in a committee.
Kaabezza
Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:51 am
#18



MarcBulger wrote:

Lol, I could dominate an unarmored target hands down. But since no one goes armorless anymore, I'm useless.



I don't use armor because wookiee armor sucks. I also never go around with buffs (except for the brandy). You could take me LOL.



We don't have time to discuss this in a committee.
Kaabezza
Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:52 am
#19



baslisks wrote:
If you suck at PvP doesn't mean the prof sucks. I am pretty effective with pistols taking out rifle men and melee alike. Use tatics not ignorant running into battles blaring your guns. By the way I'm not sure at master but health shot 1 is better then 2. It spams faster.



Just wondering what tactics to you use?



We don't have time to discuss this in a committee.
iseinip
Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:02 am
#20

Let them laugh... i could care less what all the Rifleman, CM's, Fencers, and Swordsman out there think.


Me and my friend pvp all the time he's a carbineer/Bh and i'm a pistoleer/Bh he puts ya on your back and i tear you apart.


We may have some broken specials but our stun weapon has some great damage for a pistol even if it doesn't haveAP, and our defenses are better then almost all the other profs.





Expect the worst and hope for the best and you'll never be disappointed.
thrthr
Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:49 am
#21

Hehe, sad but true - Pistoleer sucks in PvP, the main reasin being you cant target the mind pool, if you cant target mind - YOU ARE DEAD in PvP, end of story.

You say geo-blaster(stun damage)? I say PSG+Synthsteak+38% Stun Armor + Ranged Mitigation 3.. you'd be doing about ~ 20 damage on me per shot.

If you try to kill me with brining down my health? Bah. 4040 Doctor is a must in pvp(atleast 3040 to get cure poison).

You say BH + Pistoler /w Eye-shoot and Stun-damage, again i say PSG+Synthsteak+38% Stunarmor + Ranged mitigation, with about ~3k mind and 20dmg per shot.. you do the calculating. And if you go BH you have no defences so i just knock you straight over and stomp om your head.


Realize it: In high-level PvP pistoleer sucks, they are worthless. You cant kill me with pistoleer, face it.

You wanna "own" in pvp? Then go for TKA,Rifleman or Fencer. To be able to kill someone in pvp with TKA you need NS vibroknuckler with 300+ damage. with fencer a good acklay batoon with 350+ damage and for rifleman just an ordinary 33-35% dmg sliced T21 + 33% dmg 16%speed powerup.

with that bring atleast 2040 doctor go get cure poison, some combatmedic if you wanna helt your teammates (0400 for mindheal skill)....



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gunner4life
Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:37 am
#22






thrthr wrote:
Hehe, sad but true - Pistoleer sucks in PvP, the main reasin being you cant target the mind pool, if you cant target mind - YOU ARE DEAD in PvP, end of story.

You say geo-blaster(stun damage)? I say PSG+Synthsteak+38% Stun Armor + Ranged Mitigation 3.. you'd be doing about ~ 20 damage on me per shot.

If you try to kill me with brining down my health? Bah. 4040 Doctor is a must in pvp(atleast 3040 to get cure poison).

You say BH + Pistoler /w Eye-shoot and Stun-damage, again i say PSG+Synthsteak+38% Stunarmor + Ranged mitigation, with about ~3k mind and 20dmg per shot.. you do the calculating. And if you go BH you have no defences so i just knock you straight over and stomp om your head.


Realize it: In high-level PvP pistoleer sucks, they are worthless. You cant kill me with pistoleer, face it.

You wanna "own" in pvp? Then go for TKA,Rifleman or Fencer. To be able to kill someone in pvp with TKA you need NS vibroknuckler with 300+ damage. with fencer a good acklay batoon with 350+ damage and for rifleman just an ordinary 33-35% dmg sliced T21 + 33% dmg 16%speed powerup.

with that bring atleast 2040 doctor go get cure poison, some combatmedic if you wanna helt your teammates (0400 for mindheal skill)....




/agree . to all those saying that pistoleer is more then adequate in pvp i am sorry you guys are probably noobs fighting against even bigger noobs . without bh eyeshot , it is next to impossible to beat a well armored / buffed opponent . if you dont have eyeshot you will need a pistol with some crazy mind dot's and pray and hope that your opponents mind and mind secondries are under 2500 .



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Massadonious
Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:43 am
#23

I could give a rats ass what other people say. I chose to play this profession because I wanted to, not because of other's opinions.


Although, I am looking forward to getting into more Melee/PvP type professions eventually, but I will always work it around Master Pistoleer, or at least the skill lines that provide the Dodge and Stun/Blind/Dizzy defenses.





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Obed
Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:14 am
#24






Ternque01 wrote:
What do you target on them? What do they target on you? (pool wise, or specials used)

You are kiting the fencer right?






The Riflemen, of course, targets mind. But with lowblows and lastditch occationally hitting mind (they're random HAM hits), the Riflemen often find themselves unexpectedly out of mind and start conserving specials. Most of my hits go for the Health, though. So, while they're freaking out about the mind being lower than they're used to, they tend to neglect the Health and get stomped. Synthsteak is totally your friend against the Rifleman.


For Fencers, the smuggler/pistoleer hasa very important special thatis usually overlooked -- intimidate. They will eventually get within 20m. Then you slap 'em with intimidates and lastditch. Because of the stun on the lastditch, they can't use center of being anymore. They start to burn their HAM trying to save themselves. So, after they're intimidated and stunned, keep on kiting and they go down. Supressionfire is a good special against melee folks, too. Again, the health is usually what does 'em in.


Keys for pistoleer/smuggler: Get lastditch down to 1 second spamming. Get some BE initimdate/warcry clothes. Use intimidate when they get too close.


As I stated on my first post, this is successful unarmored. I have the CRAPPIEST Geo around, so I can't get through armor at all. I just won a decent geo, so I'll see how this works with the geo and armored





Obed T'Bo'Akh / Andreau Tiqaras
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DoctorGriggs
Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:02 am
#25

I fair quite well as a pistoleer with some smuggler Pistol whipping someone to the ground and unloading with Last Ditch on them is fun, especially with my 500+ damage geno pistol



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Squidwalker
Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:39 am
#26






Ternque01 wrote:
Pistoleer is a joke. When I shoot someone with my 1.5 million geonosian pistol, it tickles them.

Attention Pistoleers, you are holding nothing more than a BB gun unless you own a 5-10 million credit weapon.
Useless.

That 160-272 DX2 will kill YOU!

Your most effective shot in PvP is HealthShot2, it far outshines BodyShot 2/3. If your target has any capacity to heal, you are obselete.
End Game.

Here's to all of us patiently awaiting the combat balance. Pistoleer is the only combat profession that isn't.





Actually Pistoleer is one of the most waiting for the CB. We are one of the most out of balance combat prof out there. I was getting ready to drop pistoleer, but I figured it would take me longer to master something else, then it would for CB to come. So I'll wait and see. From I heard so far from Fan Fest reports, it has great potential to be SOE's greatest effort thus far.



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