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Thread: Pistoleer Issues 9/8/03 Rough Draft- Please comment

Geldaran
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:10 am
#14

That looks great. You did one hell of a job.


I do agree, however with the poster above that suggested splitting up #1 into severalmight get better results. Perhaps:


1. Master skills useless - explanation


2. Excessive Random HAM attacks - redundancy, low DPS compared to marksman skills


3. broken/missing skill effects - disarm1/2, meledefense2, pointblankarea2


4. Dodge/defenses worthless


5. DX2 issues


To be honest, I've never thought twice about the republic blaster. I hesitate to mention it (because it'd be ignored by the devs due to the massive changes/rebalancing it would require), but the whole firing speed issue from Philospher's stickied post would be in my personal top 5 instead of dodge and defense. Though you're probably right, we'dbe better off putting forward our proffesions issues rather than trying to get a game wide system fixed.


Ranende
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:21 am
#15

Good list, nothing to add at this moment, seems you got everything that has been bugging me.

DiLune
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:24 am
#16

Yes, very good. One comment because I have lack of faith in the Devs. If you submit this:


"I. Point Blank Single 1 (Grips 1): RANDOM HAM DAMAGE useless"


then they will come back with Point Blank Single 1 is a marksman skill. I have no faith that they will be able to extrapolate from the data that you are referring to Point Blank Single 2. Our entire response would probably be "This should be an issue handled by the Marksman Correspondant." Please fix this immediately or your entire report will be wasted effort.

Peadar
Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:49 am
#17

Great, informative post as usual. Can't argue those numbers.Well done. I would love it if the Dev's give us something more than all this RANDOM HAM crap specials! I used "stopping shot" on a gorg and it took me 5 shots to kill it....miss miss random miss random! Some stopping shot...why I kept missingat 15 meters I'll never know. This shot isnot even close to what its description says LOL.


Fixing DX2 would be great, we reallyneed a new pistol though.


Unfortunately I agree with most posters, we are a broken and nerfed profession and I seriuosly doubt we will be fixed..the Dev's just don't do the math or don't give a **edit**, maybe a combination ofboth,pick one, the result is the same, nothing will get fixed/changed for a long time.






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Cloudgatherer
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:22 am
#18

I'm going to echo the sentiment to *not* mention the republic blaster. Honestly, I don't want it looked at right now. Think of it. You are the dev implementing this stuff. Republic blaster is easy, doesn't change much, so you'll fix that. Heck no, we don't want that. Specials, defense, DX2 please!

I'll echo the suggestion for a Master level pistol. I'd suggest replacing the 'Republic Blaster' issue with the suggestion 'Master Pistoleer Pistol'. I mean, *one* weapon, and at novice? Please!

Overall, great work! I hope our specials and defenses get some attention.




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Jaegen88
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:23 am
#19

Grailyn ,


I agree that we need a master pistoleer certification, and more pistols in general (republic blaster will help out too).Devs said they are working on this (1st issues post), and I decided to limit this post to specials/defense/dx2, hoping that since they are already in the game, just completely screwed up, that they could make these high impact fixes first, then we can work on content (which is lacking I agree).




Jagen88
Jaegen Kel'daron - Master Gunfighter
Jaegen88
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:28 am
#20

DiLune ,


Hahah, so true.


"Pistoleers, we only had time for one issue this month, Point Blank Single 1, well, that's a marksman skill, we think you made an error. Have a nice year!"


Fixed in my version, good catch, thanks!




Jagen88
Jaegen Kel'daron - Master Gunfighter
Bolanos
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:40 am
#21

Jaegen, Great post, you got just about everything that is wrong. I'm only posting because I feel this should be your last issue report to SOE. We have three other issue reports that have been unanswered, and honestly, your putting in so much time and hard work for it to go unappreciated by the assholes in SOE. I think you and everyone else should forget about SOE since they forgot about us and we just play our game, obviously they have no intention on fixing us.


Again, Your doing a great job Jaegen, and I personally believe they should pay you for the amount of dedication you have put into this. Unfortunatly, SOE doesn't give a crap about us and your reports are falling before blind people. This should be the last of the pistoleer reports untill we get some form of acknowledgement of fixes tossed our way. I say strike untill they do their job!

Philosopher1976
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:45 am
#22

I agree that Jaegen did a fantastic job with this report. He is the best correspondent out there, without a doubt.


You're all right that SOE has screwed us so far, and that it's sad that they don't respond. Right now they haven't received word from us about a lot of our problems. Once they receive this report, they'll have no excuse not to act right away.


In the meantime, let's keep griping on forums and sending PMs to Holo. Complaining and whining is the only language the Devs understand, I think.






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Fastgun
Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:55 am
#23

Jaeg...Your the only reason I am hanging on to pistoleer. There is some strange optimistic part of me that says, the Devs just cannot ignore the facts when presented to them in a concise organized manner. Might just be wishful thinking.


\\\Hoping for the best



Fastgun

MagusZDark
Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:00 pm
#24

I just hope a Dev is jolting this down, or at least reading it.
isrefo
Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:30 pm
#25

I'd like to see stoppingshot do something like confusion shot except just not as severe, but makes you dizzy enough to fall down for a few seconds.

Voidwalker_Nimue
Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:51 pm
#26

First of all, great work Jaegen, as always!


Secondly, Holo acknowledged Smugglers' concerns today; that's more than we've ever gotten. Only took them 1010 posts, and a thread lock for them to notice. Is that what we have to do? He admitted that they Dev team had no idea that Panic Shot was broken. It's kind of funny ... ours have been broken a lot longer.


By this, at least we can assume that the Devs have no idea about all of our broken specials, even though we've been screaming about them in here forever. Less than 1,000 more posts to go!


I think most Pistoleers, myself included, are wary of posting outside of this forum because, through little fault of our own, will probably get flamed to hell and back for it. Does Holo respond to your PM's, Jaegen? I noticed he had a little spurt of PM responses on the tracker.


I would love for our issues to, at the very least, be acknowledged for now. It amazes me that the Devs can be so out of touch with their own game. Holo preaches about the forums being the vocal minority, and that posts here shouldn't influence game decisions too much. However, the actions of the Dev team seem to contradict those sentiments. It seems they rely on perceived power rather than concrete evidence. But, I digress.


I wanna see a Dev acknowledge us like they did for Smugglers (and yay for Smugglers, it's great that your issues will be getting attention )




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