Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Nightsister Killer Template
SilentJay1284 wrote:
Jpshaff01 wrote:
tka is fine if you know how to use it
Yeah, IF. The majority of people rather go for the Jawa with Headshot3 for the 1 WIN button.
Unlike some, I do know how to use it. Anyway, if you want pure offense and have pistols be your Swiss Army Pocket Knife, why not just go: Commando 0-0-4-0, Master Pistoleer, Smuggler 0-0-4-0, TKA 4-0-0-0 and some medic.
What does the 1 tree of commando get you?
who DOSENT love that
hmmm one word for great nightsister template SWORDSMAN
i can kill a spellweaver in less then 10 seconds and kill a mob of 6 or 7 stalkerswith area sweep in 30 secs
not to mention elders but they take a bit longer lol
i have master pistoleer/dirty fighting and you can kill ns takes longer though but you cant kill spellweavers or protectors cause there 100% to every pistol we have except striker and the striker is a joke.
thinking of dropping it though since i doubt it will ever get fixed but feign comes in handy if you take a hit thru the armor hole. and its alright for pvp although seem to get owned alot if only we had a headshot i think we would do alot better. sad that we have to have dirty fighting just to be competative..and now that they nerfed panic shot which really was great even df isnt worth it. might as well take up rifleman or cm or 1 handed. i have so many uber pistols though hard to give up lol.
RebAerall wrote:
Has anyone tried this template for the sole reason to be effective against Nightsisters?:
Also how about an alternative:
Master Pistoleer
Commando 0/0/4/0
Smuggler 0/0/4/0
TKA 2/3/0/4
Let me know what you think about these combos for Nightsisters specifically, but also in general for PvE and PvP.
Koelind wrote:
TKA is not fine in PvP. Any good player has 90% resists to Kinetic. Good Luck. You will get owned.
Anyway, to stick to the topic at hand, Nightsister Killer Template should involve Dirty Fighting 1 at minimum for the Feign Death. Nothing better then the "oh sh*t" button when you get an unlucky hit. If you are requiring a pistoleer build, then Master is the only way to go. From there you should add in the TK meditate line for post battle healing. While I understand the commando argument, I'd actually offer up some Fencer skill boxes since they offer some nice extra defense bonuses. If pistoleer is not a requirement, then there are at least 3 other builds that totally destroy NS's as compared to pistoleer.
Koelind wrote:
TKA is not fine in PvP. Any good player has 90% resists to Kinetic. Good Luck. You will get owned.
Thats why people have whats called a template, so they can switch weapons for the upper hand. If everyone you know is running around in 90% armor there a 90% chance it doesnt have stun, so just use the sonic blaster. Same goes with tka and using it on non melee people.
Calil-Garion wrote:
hmmm one word for great nightsister template SWORDSMAN
i can kill a spellweaver in less then 10 seconds and kill a mob of 6 or 7 stalkerswith area sweep in 30 secs
not to mention elders but they take a bit longer lol
i have master pistoleer/dirty fighting and you can kill ns takes longer though but you cant kill spellweavers or protectors cause there 100% to every pistol we have except striker and the striker is a joke.
thinking of dropping it though since i doubt it will ever get fixed but feign comes in handy if you take a hit thru the armor hole. and its alright for pvp although seem to get owned alot if only we had a headshot i think we would do alot better. sad that we have to have dirty fighting just to be competative..and now that they nerfed panic shot which really was great even df isnt worth it. might as well take up rifleman or cm or 1 handed. i have so many uber pistols though hard to give up lol.
You state that DF is not worth it? So gettign a ranged KD or Stun special doesn't help that much?
According to an SWG calculator for master pistoleer with a 70/213 damage 2.4 speed RB, the DPS from highest to lowest is:
R = random damage H = health damage M = mind damage
377.9 R Fanshot {AOE:Cone buggy}
371.9 R pistolmeleedefense 2 {I thought damage was only this high for lairs and turrets....}
365.3 R pointblank single 2
358.0 H healthshot 2
353.8 R roll shot - Marksman
353.8 Rkipup shot- Marksman
340.1 R Lastditch{stun} - Smuggler
340.1 M Eyeshot - Bounty Hunter
325.0 R pointblank area 2 {AOE broken}
302.4 R double tap
295.6 H torsoshot {DoT: health} - Bounty Hunter
Everything else under 290 damage... Only thing interesting in this list is:
BH has 1 mind bleed random damage special
Smuggler has one 10 sec delay special that is being/or has been nerfed.
Smugler had 1 ranged KD special.
Pistoleer has 1 point blank range knockdown.
Smuggler has a non damage feign death special!
If you have medic skills, do you need post battle healing? Is the TK meditate line better than having stim B's at your disposal?
Xarche wrote:
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Anyway, to stick to the topic at hand, Nightsister Killer Template should involve Dirty Fighting 1 at minimum for the Feign Death. Nothing better then the "oh sh*t" button when you get an unlucky hit. If you are requiring a pistoleer build, then Master is the only way to go. From there you should add in the TK meditate line for post battle healing. While I understand the commando argument, I'd actually offer up some Fencer skill boxes since they offer some nice extra defense bonuses. If pistoleer is not a requirement, then there are at least 3 other builds that totally destroy NS's as compared to pistoleer.