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Thread: How many of you actually have faith in the CU?

yohan1701
Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:39 am
#14

One thing you have to remember is that swg is a way to make SOE money. To do that they have to cater to their customers and a lot ( I am not saying all!) wanted to be jedi and if having allowing everybody and there grandmother to have a jedi character is going to attract new customer to swg, SOE is going to do it.

Now on the other hand. I believe this could have been just as great or better and have attracted all the customer they wanted with adding jedi to the mix. Customer don't always no what is good for them, always being never.



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Kevie
Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:46 am
#15

i'm sorry but you honestly can't expect me to believe that your post isn't cynical and pessimistic


catering to jedi and melee?

excuse me?


for one, pikemen are about as bad off as we are, and the only way to effectively play them is with very very expensive weapons with built-in dots

tka's were nerfed to some kind of level you wouldn't believe in the early days.... or do you even remember that?

i also seem to remember fencers not having any ap higher than ours, but oh wait, only TWO damage types!


they have a lot more defenses because in the initial testing, they had a distinct ranged disadvantage.... during these days noone had thought to grind up every brawler profession, people actually picked up scout, medic, or god forbid some crafting with their combat

but, in "catering to melee professions" they capped defenses to alleviate the need for this


and jedi?

if this is another "i'm sorry but jedi have no purpose being here blahblahblahblah"

the devs don't cater to anyone but the PLAYERS, as a WHOLE

first of all, jedi were in the game SINCE BETA

about 4 or 5 months after launch, not a single person hadfigured it out, so the devs added holocrons, but they were incredibly hard to get, (ie. noncombatants had no chance whatsoever) and all the entertainers and crafted were upset

so they gave everyone a holocron in the game, which inevitably led to hologrinding, where someone would grind a profession in HOURS and never really try to do anything with it, enjoy it, or anything worthwhile than drop it seconds after completing so they could save room for the next profession

since noone was holding onto any profession for any length of time, they decided to change the way in which people became jedi


so there you have it... there are so many jedi in the game because PEOPLE WANTED IT.... they raised so much hell about it, the devs gave them what they wanted and they had 2 publishes catered to the way people became jedi because the hologrind was soemthing that was VERY bad for the community


and yes, i do have faith in the combat testing, the devs have done a LOT for us, it's just that some people don't realize any of it until you look at the big picture




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There is no command, mood, chat type: smuggle
"#*% damnit, no. Caboose; I'm not cold, I don't want a hotdog, and if you
put mustard in my #&$^ing sheets again I'm gonna kill you." - Tucker
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Sengis
Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:03 am
#16

im positive 2005 has so far been year of the improved



ex Colonel Sengis Ghean NVA
Founder, Arroyo, Dantooine and NVA - I²D²
Master Smuggler since 01/04 | | Spice for sale PST
"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, How can we do this and not make another EQ? We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres
GunFu
Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:19 am
#17

Only jedi will be able to solo high mobs. Go figure, jedi will be uber even more. Man, how I wish I could go back to the first couple months of this game when it was awesome, lol.



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Kevie
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:05 am
#18






GunFu wrote:

Only jedi will be able to solo high mobs.






i'd like to know where you got this false information




Oaceen Tunaisea (Ow-seen Two-nay-see), Kettemoor
There is no command, mood, chat type: smuggle
"#*% damnit, no. Caboose; I'm not cold, I don't want a hotdog, and if you
put mustard in my #&$^ing sheets again I'm gonna kill you." - Tucker
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RenKesson
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:42 am
#19

Uh-oh....


I'm afraid that we are dangerously close to crossing the line from helping our profession on this forum to whining about others. Leave the Jedi and the Melee-ers out of it. We're here to do our own thing, and make our profession the best it can be. Who cares about the rest of 'em?



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happyheadhunter
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:48 am
#20








aMeRiKa wrote:



If you love your pistoleer profession so much, why don't you consider dropping those useless BH and Smug lines, and consider taking a melee profession. For someone who loves being a pistoleer, why don't you make your pistoleer stronger with some defences in the TK line, or some fencing lines.






Leave people to their fun and keep the template bashing to another thread.



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RenKesson
Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:53 am
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happyheadhunter wrote:







aMeRiKa wrote:



If you love your pistoleer profession so much, why don't you consider dropping those useless BH and Smug lines, and consider taking a melee profession. For someone who loves being a pistoleer, why don't you make your pistoleer stronger with some defences in the TK line, or some fencing lines.






Leave people to their fun and keep the template bashing to another thread.







Besides the template bashing, I don't know what Mr. AmeriKA's point is in suggesting that the other replaces BH-Smuggler skills in favor of *cough*Melee stacking*cough*. How does that make the character a stronger Pistoleer? It doesn't, it just makes the character more FOTM. And I also noted that Amerika has Smuggler in his temp, so I sure hope he isn't bashing Pistoleers who use Smuggler skills, 'cause that would be just sad, wouldn't it?

Oh, and BH-Smuggler skill = useless?? You're joking right?




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PercyBlackdragon
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:11 am
#22






RenKesson wrote:





happyheadhunter wrote:







aMeRiKa wrote:



If you love your pistoleer profession so much, why don't you consider dropping those useless BH and Smug lines, and consider taking a melee profession. For someone who loves being a pistoleer, why don't you make your pistoleer stronger with some defences in the TK line, or some fencing lines.






Leave people to their fun and keep the template bashing to another thread.







Besides the template bashing, I don't know what Mr. AmeriKA's point is in suggesting that the other replaces BH-Smuggler skills in favor of *cough*Melee stacking*cough*. How does that make the character a stronger Pistoleer? It doesn't, it just makes the character more FOTM. And I also noted that Amerika has Smuggler in his temp, so I sure hope he isn't bashing Pistoleers who use Smuggler skills, 'cause that would be just sad, wouldn't it?

Oh, and BH-Smuggler skill = useless?? You're joking right?








And with the current state of things if a current pistoleer adds a melee profession "for defenses" heres what happens - They become that melee profession with "pistol defenses" and will forget about being a pistoleer because of all the drawbacks of the profession as we stand now.


All will change soon.




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happyheadhunter
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:12 am
#23

The devs are not blind to the fact that the population on each server is dropping, hence all the new (and great) additions. They are trying to keep the fun in this game, as they should. I'm willing to bet the CURB will not let us down. As for the jedi, I may disagree with the large numbers of them, but we asked for it.


The devs are going to be the next career that goes "postal", after listening to "We want this! We want that!" then all they get when they give us this and that is "Why did you do this?! Why are you wasting time with that?!" They have the most thankless job on the planet in the galaxy.So...


Thank you devs. Keep up the good work and keep us looking forward to play time. But don't let us down or we'll piss and moan until you want to take a T-21 to your co-workers.



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SpinningCloud
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:47 am
#24


Faith in something Sony is going to do?


CUOFC, I'm a Smuggler...don't talk to me about faith in Sony!


btw...CUOFC == Curled Up On Floor Crying

Message Edited by SpinningCloud on 02-16-2005 07:48 AM




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Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
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Sengis
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:52 am
#25






happyheadhunter wrote:

The devs are not blind to the fact that the population on each server is dropping, hence all the new (and great) additions. They are trying to keep the fun in this game, as they should. I'm willing to bet the CURB will not let us down. As for the jedi, I may disagree with the large numbers of them, but we asked for it.


The devs are going to be the next career that goes "postal", after listening to "We want this! We want that!" then all they get when they give us this and that is "Why did you do this?! Why are you wasting time with that?!" They have the most thankless job on the planet in the galaxy.So...


Thank you devs. Keep up the good work and keep us looking forward to play time. But don't let us down or we'll piss and moan until you want to take a T-21 to your co-workers.






sorrymaet, 2 eyars trhe devs have been promising sjmuggler revamp.. but they trhats adifferent whinne.. As for jdi, they ownt be more pawerful, they are already balanced against the new balance to come. ratherlike ch is.. All will become clear ...



ex Colonel Sengis Ghean NVA
Founder, Arroyo, Dantooine and NVA - I²D²
Master Smuggler since 01/04 | | Spice for sale PST
"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, How can we do this and not make another EQ? We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres
happyheadhunter
Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:14 am
#26

Mother of God, can every one please give the "I pwn teh sjmuggler prf" typing a rest. It's OLD!!!!


I am also a smuggler and am also awaiting the revamp. But I'm also satisfied with all that you get with smugg. They have probably put it on the back burner and moved the bigger fish up to fry.



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