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Thread: Template 1 vs Template 2 opinions needed please

Nifty
Fri May 20, 2005 3:01 pm
#14

I only tested it briefly, Uthyr. I would have to test it a little more thoroughly to form an opinion on the merits of 1003 vs 3001.



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Nifty
Sat May 21, 2005 7:31 am
#15

Whatever template you get, I highly recommend a snare of some kind.


I'm tinkering around with a MP/MSmuggler template, and the smuggler snare is highly useful.


So is improved concussion shot since it seems to be bugged and isn't breaking on damage.





Starsider: Abici Sselof, Master Entertainer, Musician and Pistoleer; Master Pilot
Uthyr
Sat May 21, 2005 9:03 am
#16






Nifty wrote:

Whatever template you get, I highly recommend a snare of some kind.








I have a snare in by current build (which includes Rifleman)--kneecap shot--but unfortunately it doesn't seem to do much, so I don't bother with it. I think it's broken. I considered picking up Carbineer for their root, but considering that it is supposed to break on damage, if they ever fix it then it's going to be useless to me. It's so hard picking a template based on what currently works--I'm trying to anticipate how things are going to work after (if) they get the bugs fixed. Considering how long Pistoleer's specials were broken pre-CU, it is conceivable that many of these bugs might never get fixed. So what do I pick--a remplate that currently works well, or one that would work well if it was working as designed? I've been giving considerable debate to that question in my mind.



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Kevie
Sat May 21, 2005 9:04 am
#17

i was mm mbh, mpistols, carbs 0300 for about two hours before i gave up


chargeshot was nice, but so is underhand shot
the only other thing you get is defenses


4000 commando gives more
or
0404 squad leader

you give up a little accuracy though from dropping master marks though




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Nifty
Sat May 21, 2005 4:12 pm
#18

My template is going to be what I find the most fun.


The bad thing about that for me, is that the most fun is based off a future revamp, Smuggler to be precise. I thought the smuggler in concepts sounded neat, and very Star Warsy. Mix that with a blaster pistol and I've got my Star Wars experience (mix in a little shooting of Stormies, and I'm good to go.)


Problem is, who knows when that revamp will come? So do I get my template set for the revamp or do I stick with something else until the revamp and then grind out Smuggler?


Though, even without healing skills right now, I'm enjoying my template in PvE(ok, some of that enjoyment comes from a bugged concussion shot.)


I'm MP/MS with Commando 0400 for the accuracy and TKA 0100 for Improved COB (this is a huge defensive benefit!) Better accuracy now than I had with MP/MBH CM 3001.



Starsider: Abici Sselof, Master Entertainer, Musician and Pistoleer; Master Pilot
BadgerSmaker
Sat May 21, 2005 4:23 pm
#19

Good god man, if you were a Pistoleer pre CU then you should have adequate patience
to hold you over till the smuggler revamp


We've been through a lot worse.



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Nifty
Sat May 21, 2005 4:40 pm
#20

heh, it's a tough one to call. We were broken for the longest time. Smugglers haven't had smuggling missions ever. Pretty much both professions have been screwed for a long time.




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BadgerSmaker
Sat May 21, 2005 5:06 pm
#21


I can't begin to recount the number of benefits I get from the CU.


If the smuggler revamp comes anywhere near close to its preconceptions then smugglers will be a very happy bunch. And content for Smugglers is a must.

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Elven_Duke
Sat May 21, 2005 10:31 pm
#22


Both of your Template are pretty nice, I have an alt that is MBH/MP/Carbine 0440 (for now). Great pistol speed (105). Good Carbine speed (90) . 220-270 Accuracy & 200/215 to 245/260 Melee/Ranged Def. But.. no healing (can only use Instant Stims (no too bad if u can find +1200 D's).


Also Have a main that is MP/BH 0440/MCH. not that great with speed/acc/def, but I have the new triplet Female Narlach (lvl 22 7700+ Health & 86-310 dmg) alone with some rare & "special" pets .


Any way you go, here are a few tips:


  • Spices: U can use at least 2 at a time, so if u take a pixie & a muon,You get a 40% Health AND Health Regen withNO loss of action or mind for 20 min.That gives a lvl 80 player 4230 health! Add to this some Smugglers Delight, & your downtime is about 7-10 sec. Then take more (unless it's going to be a long fight, but still..)

  • Domestic Arts Foods/Drinks: Bofa Treats, Kanali Wafers Teltier Noodles, Blob Candy made with +54 BE food additive, along with Caf & Spiced Tea, will give u 390-415 Health & 290+ to all the regens for almost an hour! not bad for a food fill rate of about 54/drink of 24, giving u a 40 min+ buff with an empty stomach.

  • Chef Foods/Drinks: This is up to what u really want. Brandy & Accarragm are good drink combos for stat buffs. BOH is good, but a 15 more fill than the other 2 with almost a 33% loss in time. Kiwik Clusjo Swirl is pretty good. You could add either Gruuvan Shaal or Vagnerian Canape to go with it (if you want just stat buff food, or save space for Smuggler's & Off/Def foods).

  • Offensive & defensive Clothing & Foods/Drinks: Try to get a Bandoleer & a shirt with +13 to+16 Ranged/Melee Defense (giving u a bonus of +26 to +32. Not bad). As for foods, crispec give u a static +40 accuracy with a duration of 10 to 15 min/15 to 16 fill. there is Pikatta Pie for a nice 50% dodge (with Med food Additive), Vegeparsine for a +80 or higher Melee Def bonus, & Elshandruu Pica Thundercloud (drink) that can gives +80 Ranged Defense. Synthsteak is also an option if think u will only be hit 30-40 times durring a battle (mainly with vlv 82 or highers that dish out the damage. or duels). You may have to choose between 1 of the last 4 though.

  • Power-Ups: I know that they aren't nearly as powerful as b4, but with the right resources & experimenting on 3 can give you some good results. the speed/ damage 1s are main good for high speed Pistoleers with high speed guns. But the Grip & the Stock are pretty useful (mainly if used with Crispic). Grips loose accuracy, but gains speed. Stocks looses accuracy, but reduced action cost as well. If u have a weapon with +8 accuracy or higher, you may not even need the Crispic was able to get some that were -10 accuracy with -15% Speed on the Grip & -20% Action Cost on the Stock. so Grips are good for slow pistol & the rest of the ranged weapons, while Stock are good for when u find yourself running out of action (or want to use food buffs that don't give action bonuses).

Uses singly, they are nice, but used all at once can give u 4900+ health, high regen rates, great accuracy, & really good defenses.


Hope some of this info helps (but I know a lot of you arealready up on this stuff). & thank for your time




Elven Duke - Lvl 90 ??? - (Pre-NGE) Master CH/Master Rifleman/Master Scout
Grammaton' Cleric - Lvl 90 ??? - (Pre-NGE)Master Pistoleer/Master Carbineer/BH-0440
TechToad - 12 pt Master Weaponsmith/Master Munitions Trader (9 Respecs Left)
Orguss - Master Medic - (Pre-NGE)12 pt Master Chef with Force Exper/Master Swordsman

DigitalSpider
Sun May 22, 2005 6:55 am
#23

You can take more then 2 spice. there r 9 spices that will boost health. with the right combo of spice+food you can get around 12k health.
Elven_Duke
Sun May 22, 2005 11:03 am
#24

Cool. Thanks for the update.
I was just wondering what your list of Food/Drink/Spices is.



Elven Duke - Lvl 90 ??? - (Pre-NGE) Master CH/Master Rifleman/Master Scout
Grammaton' Cleric - Lvl 90 ??? - (Pre-NGE)Master Pistoleer/Master Carbineer/BH-0440
TechToad - 12 pt Master Weaponsmith/Master Munitions Trader (9 Respecs Left)
Orguss - Master Medic - (Pre-NGE)12 pt Master Chef with Force Exper/Master Swordsman

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