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Thread: Last ditch vs. Stopping shot

Neclonmite
Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:46 am
#14

They turned defenses on in the last big patch. TRUST ME they work. I could not land a single low blow on someone who i knew was master pistoleer and I was running out of the clone center spamming it on him for a couple hours straight. Was a fun quakestyle battle. Yes he died but I don't think he fell over once. I was able to hit lowblow on everyone else in the whole area first try 90% of the time (if i dindt simply miss). I not only missed him more because he dodged, I also never once knocked him down or saw him get knocked down.


as for this statement:


"why are there still threads on this, use the search button LAST DITCH > STOPPING SHOT > FAN SHOT"


This is purely dependant on your speed. If you do not have master pistoleer's speed:


fanshot>lastditch>stopping shot


This is because you get +20 of that +74 speed in the MASTER box.


The delay mod on last ditch is about the same as stopping shot but it does more damage. I think the multiplier is like 6 or 7x on LD. Stopping shot is 5x multiplier.




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-Neclon (Slave of the Holocron) Galaxy of Gorath - Desolation Peake
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Neclonmite
Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:03 am
#15

Again I'd say get the line for defenses and also because they will be trying to improve fanshot in the near future from the pistoleer posts by devs I've read.


You will be at +54 speed with that layout because novice marksman and pistol 4 in marksman gives you +25, and novice pistoleer is another +5.


I do not know for certain whether LD or Fanshot will be better dps at that point. I'm pretty sure that as long as you don't hit the minimum delay that fanshot will remain better DPS. But you still always follow a lowblow with a LD. You only get that 50% dmg bonus for like 1 shot, so it might as well be a big one. You also might want to get the marksman line. Without it you will miss like crazy. Heck with marksman 2 I'm still missing way too often for comfort.


Just did the math and at +54 you will not be hitting the cap. At +74 with a good fast weapon you will definitely hit it with fanshot. So LD becomes king then.




-Neclon (Rodian) Galaxy of Bria - Master Weaponsmith - Master Merchant - Master Artisan

-Neclon (Slave of the Holocron) Galaxy of Gorath - Desolation Peake
Mastered So Far:
Artisan | Smuggler | Pistoleer | Bio Engineer | Scout | Marksman | Brawler
Image Designer | Entertainer | Medic | Teras Kasi Artist | Fencer | Swordsman
Pikeman | Squad Leader | Weaponsmith | Architect
ProLamer
Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:18 am
#16

Yah, I think I will try out getting low blow in the dirty fighting line and then 0/4/4/4 Pistoleer then.


I can open with a lowblow followed by stopping shot for the increased damage and then finish with fan shot, or try variances.


Any thoughts?




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spooooks
Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:40 am
#17

Im master Gunfighter and I have last ditch, i was wondering how fast stopping shot shoots compaired to last ditch.
I use to just spam stopping shot, should i replace it with last ditch? or is it too slow?
Seekalaei
Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:13 am
#18






spooooks wrote:

Im master Gunfighter and I have last ditch, i was wondering how fast stopping shot shoots compaired to last ditch.
I use to just spam stopping shot, should i replace it with last ditch? or is it too slow?







Lsst Ditch does more damage, but costs way more HAM than Stoppingshot. I only use Last Ditch when I get a KD to stick, or when I get Panic to stick.


I find that spamming Last Ditch isn't very smart if you want to live long.


If you are talking strictly about PvP, I would use it wisely. Especially if you aint got Doc buffs.


Pop some Tat Sunburn, and spam away. Works good with pixie too.




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Espo99
Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:26 pm
#19






realvorda wrote:

I got em both, and always use last ditch (I am always buffed..). but I cant shoot it once a second.. neither can I with stopping shot btw. can someone give me the dmg/speed multiplier of last ditch? stopping shot is in the pistoleer FAQ.



tip for smuggler in PvE: /lowblow; /lastd; /panics; /lastd... is your friend. (this gives kd, one lastd, then panic shot before they get up so they stay down for another 10 sec thats 10 more secs of kd bonus)









concerning your tip...I seem to get my /lowblow to stick more often after something simple like BS2...


I start with a quick BS2 (fast shot) then /lowblow /lastd /panics /lastd /lastd (hope you hit the mind pool a few times!)






DAVCRE

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realvorda
Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:47 pm
#20

nah, the only shot that doesnt stick when you open with it is panics. it just wont work if u use it as first shot..



Vorda Treygath
Synergy
[Original Mandalorian Warrior]
TempleSacrosanct
Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:04 am
#21

I have the SS to back me up, but I am no where near able to post a screenie on the board, I have done 4k damage with Last Ditch(republicblaster with a max dmg mod, sliced for dmg). I regularly hit 3k with it and I have come close to hitting 2k with stopping shot, got meds? spam away once you get up to stances4 or master the delay seems to be on par(maybe a bit longer) with stopping shot.



Tiran'din Master Pistoleer/Fencer TKA
spooooks
Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:43 am
#22

thanks a lot...as long as it's kinda close to on par... though it does take more ham
realvorda
Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:51 am
#23

I got em both, and always use last ditch (I am always buffed..). but I cant shoot it once a second.. neither can I with stopping shot btw. can someone give me the dmg/speed multiplier of last ditch? stopping shot is in the pistoleer FAQ.



tip for smuggler in PvE: /lowblow; /lastd; /panics; /lastd... is your friend. (this gives kd, one lastd, then panic shot before they get up so they stay down for another 10 sec thats 10 more secs of kd bonus)





Vorda Treygath
Synergy
[Original Mandalorian Warrior]
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