Pistoleer Archive

Boba, you really need to stop crying about the profession you chose. Did the fact that you had to master marksman AND scout to reach that HYBRID profession totally escape you? The fact that 1/2 of the entire pre requisite of a bounty hunter is not combat related should give you a hint that a bounty hunter is in fact NOT a profession totally focused on combat. As a matter of fact I believe the focus of a bounty hunter is tracking marks. The weapons and the related skills are secondary to actually FINDING your marks first. It does take time to become a master pistoleer. The hardest part of becoming a master bounty hunter is the investigation tree. *sniff sniff* yes the marks are difficult, Yes the missions need tweaking. I have beat many bounty hunters in one on one pvp. No one is un defeatable in PvP. No one. The fact that you watch and read a lot of Starwars movies and novels, and read about fictional characters being uber, and darn kewl, does not mean you jump into SWG and choose that profession and run around in your Boba Fett Underoos, and have the right to scream "I am a bounty hunter I should be un-killable, especially since I sat in a camp for 20 hours to achieve my uber title and matching thong!"

Bounty Hunter reality check. We (yes i said we) are NOT Boba Fett. If you don't like the fact you have to do scouting to be a bounty hunter and end up with 33 points after mastering bounty hunter. It was really your choice. You didn't achieve master and then all of the sudden notice "**edit**! I can't be a Creature Handler!" Wich seems to be the main gripe of that care bear profession. You guys just want too much. You don't focus on the positive of being bounty hunters. Bounty hunter is a great profession. I mean you get a ranged knockdown in the first skill box of your profession. 2 nice weapons (yes I know LLC is broke) The ability to attack any Ham. Comprable skills to a master pistoleer, and carbineer. Yet somehow your profession is gimp'd and you need all these fixes or being a bounty hunter is not worth it. You need to read up on your strengths, and quit focusing on your weaknesses before you start whinning about how sorry your profession is.

Master Pistoleer, Bounty Hunter (1,0,4,0)

Niotma, if you really look at these boards, NONE OF US ARE SAYING ANYTHING TO DISCREDIT BH. They are the ones coming over here to OUR board and starting fights. As it stand, I can reach Master BH before I reach Master Pistoleer.

You really have no idea do you? I'll brteak it down.

1) investigation - You raise this by doing BH missions. For each 100 credits you get 1 exp. The missions are based on the most powerful weapon you have equiped. I was doing them while equiping a pistol at BH pistol 4. I would get missions paying 7k which is more than a basic novice would get (3k). Each mission would take at MINIMUM 15 minutes to do. So if doing nothing else I could do 4 missions an hour (280 exp max potential). This is of course assuming that I had no deaths (which I never did anyway) and that the Mark wasnt just a white dot that couldnt be attacked (5 times this happened). To get investigations 4 takes 34k exp. Thats 121 hours of nonstop missions. To put that in perspective as a pistoleer since This past weekend I've averaged at minimum 80k exp an hour...thats 9,680,000 pistol experience in the same time as it would take to max 1 bounty hunter tree. Since only 3 trees in pistoleer use pistol experience I could master pistoleer, drop it completely, and master it again in the same amount of time as reaching investigation 4.

2) BH pistol - I hear alot of people complaining about nerfing pistol whip. Try to get ALL your pistol exp WITHOUT a pistol knockdown. Such is the case here. Its not hard but not as fast as a pistoleer would get it.

3) BH carbine - I never used it once I maxed it, but not too hard to get once you get underhand.

4) LLC - Completely worthless weapon. Its not as strong as a scout blaster, has no useful specials and no knockdown. Did I mention its only available 1 day out of 20 with Lowcas shiz resource shifts?

I've started working in the pistoleer tree Monday and I need 1.5million more to master. What game are you playing where you can master bountyhunter in a week or less?

You know, I'm not even going to argue with you, I just cant believe you complain about a mere 29 points when we waste points on an ENTIRE tree.

To jump in a bit...

I have to agree with the guy saying that scouting skills are incredibly useful. If you don't think so, you haven't been using the active ones correctly, and you've been taking the passive ones for granted.

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BobaF377 wrote:

You know, I'm not even going to argue with you, I just cant believe you complain about a mere 29 points when we waste points on an ENTIRE tree.

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Who's complaining? Not me. I'm not a Commando, so what do I care? I do believe in getting the most out of the limited skill points we're given though. That whole Commando thing was just me pointing out that I believe theywaste more skill points traininguselessskill points than Bounty Hunters.

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Darth-Towelman wrote:
o and to the pistoleers that want bh nerfed.. quit complaining and use what you have..

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This post and the post above it is wonderful.

But the only thing I don't like about BH is the LLC line and Investigation missions don't pay expenses for going all over the galaxy. Or at least give us frequesnt flyer miles and in flight movies :-p

Master Pistoleer harder to get then Master BH is pretty funny. On top of everything Steenky said, he forgot to mention how increadibly long and hard it is to get LLC up, first box you need 150k exp... and you have.. No specials to use. So you have to sit there shooting little crap worth no exp trying to get that first box with just plain normal attack. Once you get your first special, guess what.. it sucks. Let me ask you something... if Master Pistoleer is so much harder to get then Master BH, why are there so many Master Pistoleers and no Master BH's yet?

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Ravenmist wrote:
Let me ask you something... if Master Pistoleer is so much harder to get then Master BH, why are there so many Master Pistoleers and no Master BH's yet?

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Master BH is not the issue at all. I could care less about the LLC. 3/4 of the BH tree has nothing to do with pistols. I think the problem is this for a lot of Pistoleers: You don't need to be a master BH to have better speed and accuracy mods than a Master Pistoleer.

To address your question specifically, at least one reason is because the Investigation skill line in BH is messed up, according to what I've read in the BH forum.

See, its actually possible to read other forums and not post in them.

I am going Smuggler/Pistoleer. Here is my view on Bounty Hunters: If a Master Bounty Hunter and a Master Pistoleer square off, both using pistols then I feel that the Pistoleer (The Pistol Specialist, the one that knows Pistols inside and out) should win 60-75% of the time. Same with Carbineer and Bounty Hunter. A bounty hunter has a wide range of weapons to use to complete his mission, you pick the right weapon for the job. Bounty Hunters should face that fact. Quit your whining and post on the Bounty Hunter forum.

One you are crying. Any time you complain about your profession that you chose not being able to master an elite profession due to lack of skill points and other elite professions (notice i said elite and not HYBRID) can is crying.

I know bounty hunters aren't un killable. I have killed many myself.

If you think so just give up your in game name and we can do this. I am pretty sure i could beat you with my 17-35 4.0 CDEF pistol. You have my in game name and skills lets see yours.

Talk about opening up a can of worms, **edit**.

Steenky, I never said that BH should be nerfed, so don't try putting words in my mouth.

2nd, instead of you posting those issues here, on PISTOLEER forum, you should post the bugs over in the BOUNTY HUNTER forum where they belong so dev's can see that there really is a problem there that needs to be fixed. How does that sound? I'm not a dev, neither are the people who are on the PISTOLEER FORUM. The dev in this forum will not pay attention to BOUNTY HUNTER because this is the PISTOLEER FORUM. Don't cry to me, cry to your dev till they fix your issue's, that's what we are doing. You don't see me in the Bounty Hunter forum posting about Pistoleer issues do you? Get that straight please.

Talk about opening up a can of worms, **edit**.

Steenky, I never said that BH should be nerfed, so don't try putting words in my mouth.

I don't remember saying that you did.

2nd, instead of you posting those issues here, on PISTOLEER forum, you should post the bugs over in the BOUNTY HUNTER forum where they belong so dev's can see that there really is a problem there that needs to be fixed. How does that sound? I'm not a dev, neither are the people who are on the PISTOLEER FORUM. The dev in this forum will not pay attention to BOUNTY HUNTER because this is the PISTOLEER FORUM. Don't cry to me, cry to your dev till they fix your issue's, that's what we are doing. You don't see me in the Bounty Hunter forum posting about Pistoleer issues do you? Get that straight please.

Seeing how I'm NOT a bounty hunter I don't really have a vested interest in their fixes. By the same token I DO care that a profession that I've chosen (along with smuggler and soon to be TKA) is being made to sound too weak compared with someone who choses to play a SINGLE profession. This profession is NOT a cook or a dancer, its one that is second only to Jedi in single combat potency.

BTW if anyone on Lowca doubts that I'm a pistoleer and thinks I'm just a BH bitchin: Come to Dath, loan me a scatter pistol and watch my combat damage while using it.