Pistoleer Archive
Thread: PVP... I feel for you guys...
RakeOdimo wrote:
Yes I have heard of a Tangle pistol, but the resources on our server (Tarq) don't make the tangles worth much at all.
Sliced and powered up my Tangle does less then 200 max damage and no AP.
So I use my powered up Republic Blaster which is over 460 max damage and has AP1.
Don't pay so much concern to damage output of the gun. Your rebupblic may be nice, but when faced against 80% energy resists that tangle is gonna out do you on effective DPS.
Also if the resist is vunerable.... like stun is on composite there is a -1 effect on the ap rating. Meaning someone with AP1 armor and a vunerable stun resists, when shot with a stun weapon will act like there is no armor at all.
The tangle I use is barely above 100 dmg. It works great for me.
Like every one else said you cant just go master pistoleer and be good you have to have either Bh pistols or rouge
Yes I have heard of a Tangle pistol, but the resources on our server (Tarq) don't make the tangles worth much at all.
Sliced and powered up my Tangle does less then 200 max damage and no AP.
So I use my powered up Republic Blaster which is over 460 max damage and has AP1.
fight in the cantina i recently took part in.
was getting a mind buff in the cantina, i had doc buffs as well. i was declared overt (rebel). an overt imperial master rifleman walks in (mind buff, no doc buffs), and he kills me from 5m away, while moving with a t21 in 4 shots... combat log looked something like this. dont remember the guys name so ill just say Imperial.
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 225 points of damage!
You shoot at Imperial but miss!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 256 points of damage!
You shoot at Imperial but miss!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 225 points of damage!
You use stopping shot on Imperial for 346 points of damage!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for297 points of damage!
You have been incapacitated by Imperial.
You have been slain by Imperial.
i fire stopping shot at about 1 every 1.5 secs or so (have a few pistol speed SEAs), and he was firing faster then me with a t21! and he didnt miss a single shot from 5-10m while moving.
zaztekxeroz wrote:fight in the cantina i recently took part in.
was getting a mind buff in the cantina, i had doc buffs as well. i was declared overt (rebel). an overt imperial master rifleman walks in (mind buff, no doc buffs), and he kills me from 5m away, while moving with a t21 in 4 shots... combat log looked something like this. dont remember the guys name so ill just say Imperial.Imperial uses master head shot on you for 225 points of damage!
You shoot at Imperial but miss!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 256 points of damage!
You shoot at Imperial but miss!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 225 points of damage!
You use stopping shot on Imperial for 346 points of damage!
Imperial uses master head shot on you for 297 points of damage!
You have been incapacitated by Imperial.
You have been slain by Imperial.i fire stopping shot at about 1 every 1.5 secs or so (have a few pistol speed SEAs), and he was firing faster then me with a t21! and he didnt miss a single shot from 5-10m while moving.
you didnt use PMD1 why?
Maybe they had defenses stacked with other professions, and I understand that this isnt a RM post.
I just find it silly that none of the ranged professions do what they should at master. Hence, the balancing going on now by SOE.
I better hurry up and master RM (holo) before they nerf it.
Right now another poster said it best:
Pistol = high speed, low damage
Carbine = high speed, med damage
Rifle = high speed, high dmg
The thing that makes RM so string and pist so sucky is the accuracy. RM accuracy is absolutely SICK.
Hmmm....
unbuffed, unarmored, just a Blaster - and I freaking owned a BH like it was no one's business. He never hit me with the stupid LLC. Never, not once. He is bleeding his hairy butt off (Wookie, no armor either, so it was fair), standing in one spot as I move and shoot. He drops, I laffed, and then let a DANCER DB him. Good screenie to humiliate him too.
Skills, nope. Tactics people.
You stand in one spot, you are dead. Move and you may miss, they probably will miss with our dodge and their accuracy. Works for me.
Whine all ya want, you stand in one spot and play Duke Nukem, you deserve to die. Use some common sense and nothing is impossible. Just takes a wee bit of skill and knowing your limitations.
JB
Rifleman as overpowered as they may be..... do have 1 big weakness. Range. Get within close range of the rifleman, force them to kite, and they're accuracy will be pitiful."
Er, a Master Rifleman has +160 accuracy or something. Jawa Ions with like 175-425 damage (powered up but NOT krayt) have -50 at point blank. That leave +110. A pistoleer has +95 accuracy. My 144-368dmg krayt powered up dx2 has +21 at point blank. That makes +116.
110 vs 116. Seems pretty much the same for Masters. If you add in the +15 for Accuracy while Standing we're doing a bit better at 0 range (depending on the pistol) but the Rifleman isn't exactly missing a lot with +110 after range reductions.
I just ran some tests with a Master Rifleman and he Blocks nearly as much as I Dodge and his Speed Mods are enough that he shoots nearly as fast, if not as fast. With Head3 on a Jawa Ion ... armour tending to be 0 vs Stun and it going through Light armour, vs me using Stopping/Body3/Fan going through the Light but hitting 50-90% resist on acid, I tend toward thinking the Rifleman is better off. Even at point blank.
We have some better Defense vs. X type stuff, but their Ranged Defense is incredible compared to ours. So in the end I find we're pretty much the same except they have better guns. These better guns are supposed to fire slower and be less accurate at close range, but at Master it doesn't really seem that much different.
ereshkigal
JBMat wrote:
Hmmm....
unbuffed, unarmored, just a Blaster - and I freaking owned a BH like it was no one's business. He never hit me with the stupid LLC. Never, not once. He is bleeding his hairy butt off (Wookie, no armor either, so it was fair), standing in one spot as I move and shoot. He drops, I laffed, and then let a DANCER DB him. Good screenie to humiliate him too.
Skills, nope. Tactics people.
You stand in one spot, you are dead. Move and you may miss, they probably will miss with our dodge and their accuracy. Works for me.
Whine all ya want, you stand in one spot and play Duke Nukem, you deserve to die. Use some common sense and nothing is impossible. Just takes a wee bit of skill and knowing your limitations.
JB
Not bad considering bounty hunters have 0 defenses and are possible the most gimped class in the game. Was it even a master bounty hunter? And you forgot that LLC is horrible in PVP.
lol BH is joke right now. I dropped Master BH after doing 90% Invest pre-XP boost, (thats alot of time) only kept it with it til the Profession badges came out.
As Pistoleer- 2-3-4-3 I do far better in pve withstanding alot more damage and state changes.