Pistoleer Archive

Oh, so its not just me then...

22:38:55 You use Stopping Shot on Colten Lee for 359 points of damage!
22:38:56 You incapacitate Colten Lee.
22:38:56 You use Stopping Shot on Colten Lee for 389 points of damage!

normally i eyeshot spam, so thats not really a good indicator...but here's a clip from when i used stopping shot in pvp...

and fanshot...

22:37:55 You use Fan Shot on Ofarin Vepiam for 612 points of damage!
22:37:56 You use Fan Shot on Okou Acik (a Rebel SpecForce urban guerrilla) for 1046 points of damage!
22:37:56 You use Fan Shot on Glolla Epfof (a Rebel SpecForce General) for 742 points of damage!
22:37:57 You incapacitate Ofarin Vepiam.

and eyeshot to compare it to:

[Combat] 22:04:04 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 380 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:04 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:05 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 221 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:05 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and hits for 62 points of damage.
[Combat] 22:04:06 Your Eye Shot misses rzzq rzzq.
[Combat] 22:04:07 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 192 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:07 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:07 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:08 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 396 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:08 Shintora Soulreaver shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:08 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:08 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:09 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 122 points of damage, but he blocks it!
[Spatial] 22:04:09 Oteis Ceipaceiakou applies poison to you.
[Spatial] 22:04:09 You have been poisoned!
[Combat] 22:04:09 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:10 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:10 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 403 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:10 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Spatial] 22:04:10 You catch on fire!
[Combat] 22:04:11 Shintora Soulreaver uses a flamethrower to spray concentrated fire on you for 1082 points of damage, but you evade it.
[Combat] 22:04:11 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 168 points of damage, but he blocks it!
[Combat] 22:04:11 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:11 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:12 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 71 points of damage, but he blocks it!
[Combat] 22:04:12 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:13 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:13 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 395 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:13 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 22:04:14 You use Eye Shot on rzzq rzzq for 323 points of damage!
[Combat] 22:04:14 rzzq rzzq shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 22:04:14 rzzq rzzq looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Spatial] 22:04:15 You incapacitate rzzq rzzq.

good times /shrug

Of course you think we suck, you've come from two of the most overpowered proffs in game. The CH's got their fix to keep the dabblers from having the best pets. Ask a CH now if he feels tough.

And don't get me started on riflemen. Have you noticed yet that you are now slower than you were as a rifle user? it doesn't get any better. It's not that we can't keep up with rifles, it's that rifles are overpowered. A master rifleman is as fast, faster even, than a master pistoleer. Thats not because we are too slow, it's because you've got rifles hitting the same speed cap as pistoleers, TKA's and fencers.

This will all be addressed in the next combat fix, but don't expect it to mean that we are gonna get any better. More likely they will simply screw us less than some others. The devs have already said that the current system is broken and has been since release.

Once upon a time WE were the overpowered combat class. We got ours, theirs is coming.

I made one typo above-- I'm 4/2/4/3 pistoleer (almost 4/3/4/4)..

As far as the damage your seeing with fanshot in pvp, you must be going against wookies or something. Try hitting a TKM and/or someone wearing composite armor.

As a master rifleman, you use a damage (not speed) sliced T21, which is heavy armor piercing, 450ish un-poweredup dmg for max, and fires once a second (now add a 32% damage modifier to it!).

... and I've YET to dodge a master rifleman shooting at me (with any significant results), and that including having 0/2/3/0 fencer.

...sucks to be us.

Well, I used to be a Master Rifleman + Creature Handler.

I kicked butt in pvp.

Dropped it to become a BH-- wanted to hunt those Jedi's. Turns out, the defenses and damage output of a BH SUCKS. Plus with all the points used, I couldn't do much else prof wise... so, I dropped it.

Got onto the Pistoleer+Fencer band-wagon.

I'm 1/3/4/3 pistoleer and 0/2/3/0 fencer.

Went PVPing today..tried a repulic blaster, and a scatter pistol... My damage to others?? Laughable... 40-90 damage (after mitigation, etc.)

Attacked a master rifleman, I did 90dmg, he did 220+220+220+220+220.

I got OWNED.

As a master rifleman, I would get 20-25 kills (on average) in Anchorhead before being killed... AND I'd get huge pvp points (from Ranged DB). Now? I get next to no pvp points (people take any kills I might accidently get).

The damage output is pitiful. I got owned by a CM the other day..went back, fired with pistol....wasn't damaging him. Switched to sword (from fencer), and killed him in 3 hits.

What kind of joke of a profession is this anyway? Sure, I dodge and resists KDs more, but umm...don't I have to be able to DAMAGE them to kill them?

BTW.. sadly, I picked a wookie, so armor is out of the question for me. This is such bs.

Ya seriously. It is amazing how much more powerful Pistoleer gets with that Rogue title from Smuggler. Even with all those god templates running around I still hate Master Gunfighter/Rogues the most. Rifleman gives no KD defense so there is not much I can do about it (even TKM only gives 20 vs. KD).I really only think Master Rifleman becomes overpowered when used with other professions and any kind of buffs. I'd agree though that Master Pistoleer alone ain't too great.

IF they are unbuffed it's not a problem.

If they are buffed, it is a problem.

Armor makes little difference.... discover what a tangle pistol can do for you

Rifleman as overpowered as they may be..... do have 1 big weakness. Range. Get within close range of the rifleman, force them to kite, and they're accuracy will be pitiful.

Going Fencer / Pistoleer is going to be a waste after the combat changes, so I would scrap Fencer and go:

Master Pistoleer

0/0/4/0 Smuggler - For the Dirty Fighting Line

Whatever the hell else you want to go.

Now try PvPing again against Rifleman...heres' what to do:

/panicshot

- You delay XXXX for 10 secs

/lowblow

- If you KD them, they will be dead in less then the 10 secs needed for Panic Shot to wear off

/lastditch

/lastditch

/whateverelseyouwanttospam

Pistoleer wins

With this profession you CAN NOT just be a Pistoleer and win....not gonna happen.

Against TKM's its even easier:

/panicshot

- Who cares if it hits, but it helps

/lowblow

- Again would be nice if it sticks

/lastditch - or whatever else you want to spam - While running away from the Melee class

Pistoleer Wins.

You must have been doing something wrong I own just about everyone I go against in pvp. 4:1 or greater odds.

Most of my dmg is 90-400 and thats with around a 300dmg fwg5 or repub.

i dont' know i think our dmg is fine and speed is fine its just i can't hit a rifleman/melee hybrid to save my bloody life.

well thats what i make mind poisons for i guess lol

IM a master commando And took up pistoleer for the holo grind. I was happy to find out its not nearlly as bad as I was told. I was expecting it to be really week. But with the right stratagy you can kill very efectively. I was so used to burn and run that I forgot how to think for a few days but after i got it down ZI was droppnig everything with my pistol.

I couldnt help noticing the post above that said, just get within range and make the RM kite you.

Heh, I have been in a few fights lately (im a buffed MDoc/MPistoleer) and I have tried just that. I thought, oh, they are a rifleman, they cant hit me if im point blank on em.

Boy was I wrong. I wish I saved the combat queue to post it here. I got schooled every time. I miss, and miss, and miss, and hit, and miss, and miss, and miss some more.

Two of the fights, I got mind incapped within 6 shots (300 or so hp a shot). Here is the kicker. The MRM NEVER missed. Not once.

My only question is, how the HELL can a MRM beat a Master Pistoleer fighting point blank. Its rediculous. I understand at range they should own us. But point blank...

BTW I had a full set of composite, and over 1600 mind at the time I fought. Im not so cocky anymore...