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Thread: BS3?

Bajor_Dit
Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:20 pm
#1

Any word on Body Shot 3 with the new patch? It one of my next boxes, and I want to know whether to get it, or raise accuracy again.



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NecrozDarksoul
Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:04 pm
#2

Working fine.



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ShadowRanger00
Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:15 pm
#3

it does MORE damage than bodyshot2 now?



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novakaine
Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:44 pm
#4

BS3 is only good if you are a master.At less than master BS2 does more DPS. Maybe next month.



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RakeOdimo
Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:34 am
#5

novakaine:


This is not correct.


If you have a speed sliced pistol of less then 1.5 speed then Body Shot III works better.


I have tested this on mainly diff. higher level mobs on Naboo (and Dant, Endor, but Naboo is easier to get less aggro) and if you have a pistol with good speed it is much better.


Now if you don't have a speed sliced pistol, then yes until you get master BSII will do more DPS.





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Bajor_Dit
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:47 pm
#6

Thanks Phil. That breaks it out nicely. Sucks that they have not fixed that yet. I was looking forward to something new.


Since it strictly does more damage, do the dev's even consider it broken, or are they just waiting for the proffession balance pass that is coming next month?




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Bajor_Dit
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:48 pm
#7

One other question unrelated. PMD1 is a knockdown, but I saw someone say that PMD2 is not. True?



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Philosopher1976
Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:17 pm
#8






Bajor_Dit wrote:

Thanks Phil. That breaks it out nicely. Sucks that they have not fixed that yet. I was looking forward to something new.


Since it strictly does more damage, do the dev's even consider it broken, or are they just waiting for the proffession balance pass that is coming next month?






I think pretty much everything is on hold until that combat balance. That's my sense of things, at least.






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Philosopher1976
Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:18 pm
#9






Bajor_Dit wrote:
One other question unrelated. PMD1 is a knockdown, but I saw someone say that PMD2 is not. True?




Sadly, yes. Plus it has the high HAM costs of a knockdown move, which makes it doubly worthless.






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Zombie14
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:14 pm
#10

PMD?



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Alistaire
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:16 pm
#11

I don't know about that Phil... I have a 1.5 speed FWG5 and achieved 3-2-3-2 a little while ago today. Using bodyshot 2 I was lucky to get a Shallow Torton to half its HAM remaining before it would find me (I'm a Ranger), but with BS3 I can easily get it to about two thirds to 3/4 down before it gets to me. The timing seems about the same to me.



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Philosopher1976
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:54 pm
#12






Alistaire wrote:
I don't know about that Phil... I have a 1.5 speed FWG5 and achieved 3-2-3-2 a little while ago today. Using bodyshot 2 I was lucky to get a Shallow Torton to half its HAM remaining before it would find me (I'm a Ranger), but with BS3 I can easily get it to about two thirds to 3/4 down before it gets to me. The timing seems about the same to me.




Well think about the variables at work there, Alistaire. Let's take one, for instance --"before it would find me" ... sometimes the Torton will find you more quickly than other times. Another variable -- how good your bleed was each time. Every encounter with a creature is a little bit different, and it's bad to compare specials based on your encounter with one creature.


My suggestion, if you want to test it out, is to get another player and use the /log command to capture the combat spam. Yes, the timing isn't very different, but a half a second per shot is very substantial because you're spamming the special many times per creature.






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RakeOdimo
Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:42 pm
#13

Phil I understand the math that you wrote out but from my own personalexp. this is not the case.


Body Shot III is better then Body Shot II


While the formula may say other wise, I have killed enough poor Bolle Bols on Naboo to see that BS3 does more damage quicker then BS2.


My exact gun is this:


62 - 267 .9 speed (gotta love speed slice, and YES I KNOW you cap at 1 second) Krayt FWG5


If I get a chance this weekend I will try to get some stats, but visually (and with my group mates who DID not attack) we noticed a difference with BS3 over BS2.


It killed them quicker no doubt about it.






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