Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Concept thread : Pistoleer End Game ideas.
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Zimal
Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:01 am
#1
NaKitNa wrote:
I Said Dance! (0 damage, but roots and disarms, with dancing animation for opponent, and disarm doesnt break on damage)
rofl
BadgerSmaker
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:20 am
#2
I thought we could do with a thread to bat about some ideas of what could happen after the Master Pistoleer box. This is all conceptual ideas so don't go getting your hopes up.
At the moment, all we have is collecting uber guns, SEA's, ADK's and other equipment... or going down the jedi route.
I had some ideas about unlocking improved and advanced version of our moves and NakitNa went into an in depth proposal that I haven't had time to properly digest yet (I don't suppose you could summarise all that for us, NakitNa?).
So, what would you like to see? Any and all crazy far fetched ideas appreciated, lets have some brain storming!
Message Edited by BadgerSmaker on 06-08-2005 04:24 PM
Caparzzo
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:43 am
#3
I think it would be cool if they had exclusive Master Pistoleer quests to get cool items (like master certed pistols or a gun holster). Or a big motivation to get Master Pistoleer would be if you could get double-wielding even though it's not in the game yet.
Message Edited by Caparzzo on 06-08-2005 08:44 AM
Kevie
Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:16 am
#4
i like the ideas of something for end-game
what i would REALLY like to see is something quest-based
similar to armorsmiths having the RIS quest, it should be something epic, worth it, but doable (RIS, at one time, was obviously not doable... some people killed 12493874923894 kimogilas without any scales)
it should be something that anyone can complete, and also something that people can complete no matter how many people are running the quest
the jedi starfighter quest for example, can only be done every half hour, by ONE person, and once someone starts it, the next person has to wait at LEAST half an hour
i dunno lol, it might be easier to ask for things we DO want instead of things we DON'T want
what i would REALLY like to see is something quest-based
similar to armorsmiths having the RIS quest, it should be something epic, worth it, but doable (RIS, at one time, was obviously not doable... some people killed 12493874923894 kimogilas without any scales)
it should be something that anyone can complete, and also something that people can complete no matter how many people are running the quest
the jedi starfighter quest for example, can only be done every half hour, by ONE person, and once someone starts it, the next person has to wait at LEAST half an hour
i dunno lol, it might be easier to ask for things we DO want instead of things we DON'T want
BadgerSmaker
Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:43 am
#5
Kevie wrote:
i dunno lol, it might be easier to ask for things we DO want instead of things we DON'T want
Either or is good... more! 
Kevie
Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:02 am
#6
BadgerSmaker wrote:
Kevie wrote:
i dunno lol, it might be easier to ask for things we DO want instead of things we DON'T want
Either or is good... more!
i know i would DEFINATELY want some NPC that all pistoleers flock to who is basically the yoda of pistoleers
he just sits in the middle of knowhere in a hut and has you do a lot of quests, shooting something, using certain skills, basically LEARNING about the profession
but also some things like the hermit quests where you have to answer a riddle, perhaps a crafting portion where you craft your own pistol (much like jedi craft their own lightsabers) but from components you must gather
and i definately love the idea of gaining special attacks, and especially making dual wield quest-based
entertainers have a master quest, armorsmiths... i really and truly believe every profession should have something that sets apart the dabblers from the masters from the "true" masters
a new title wouldn't hurt
Message Edited by Kevie on 06-08-2005 01:02 PM
Nifty
Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:23 am
#7
Content that has actual choices would be nice. You start the content and at various points you have to make a choice. Have the content span over many quests. Something that actually engages the player, and keeps the player interested. Something that is more than just "go here and kill this. then deliver the loot to someone else. finally go kill this last thing." However, anything but XP grinding, please. We did enough XP grinding to get our templates finished. We have an end game that is nothing but XP grinding (Jedi.) How about giving us some end game content that has nothing to do with XP grinding?
The reward could be a permanent PUP for your pistol. This way, the reward is useful to a pistoleer, and can be applied to any weapon. I don't like the idea of an end game reward being an uber weapon, because then everyone runs around with the uber weapon and there is no variety. With a permanent PUP, you can modify any of your weapons. (you can make the PUP so you can remove it and put it on another pistol.)
New content can be added, and a different kind of PUP be the reward for the new content.
Obviously, if dual wieldand holsters are ever implemented,they should be a content rewards.
Alpha_Bits
Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:49 am
#8
I was just thinking about gunbelts. The smuggler forum has a thread about gunbelts, but it seems more like a pistoleer thing to me...
An end-game quest to gain a real quickdraw ability would be pretty cool. Not a 'combat' ability, but if you get it (maybe it could be a gunbelt cert), you can wear a gunbelt that your gun goes into whenever you're not in combat... and as soon as you engage in combat, you quickdraw and attack.
Would need new animation to be totally sweet, of course. And of course we'd want whatever our current gun is to be the one in the holster...
Would need new animation to be totally sweet, of course. And of course we'd want whatever our current gun is to be the one in the holster...
At the risk of asking for way too much, how cool would it be if you could do your unarmed attacks with the gun in the holster, too? (basically all unarmed and pistol attacks are available without having to equip/unequip your gun).
And a questing system after endgame to access this stuff would be awesome. And yeah, no grinding. Grinding sucks.
Why would the master gunslinger be in a hut? Why not put him/her/it in Mos Eisley? Does it get more 'wild west' than that?
BadgerSmaker
Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:55 pm
#9
Alpha_Bits wrote:
At the risk of asking for way too much, how cool would it be if you could do your unarmed attacks with the gun in the holster, too? (basically all unarmed and pistol attacks are available without having to equip/unequip your gun).
Ask for everything! Anything you ever wanted!
Some nice ideas here so far... keep em coming.
Mr_pwnage
Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:58 pm
#10
BadgerSmaker wrote:
Alpha_Bits wrote:
At the risk of asking for way too much, how cool would it be if you could do your unarmed attacks with the gun in the holster, too? (basically all unarmed and pistol attacks are available without having to equip/unequip your gun).
Ask for everything! Anything you ever wanted!Some nice ideas here so far... keep em coming.
Can I have a million dollars?
BadgerSmaker
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:00 pm
#11
Mr_pwnage wrote:
BadgerSmaker wrote:
Alpha_Bits wrote:
At the risk of asking for way too much, how cool would it be if you could do your unarmed attacks with the gun in the holster, too? (basically all unarmed and pistol attacks are available without having to equip/unequip your gun).
Ask for everything! Anything you ever wanted!
Some nice ideas here so far... keep em coming.
Can I have a million dollars?
No! More ideas!
Mr_pwnage
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:04 pm
#12
BadgerSmaker wrote:
Mr_pwnage wrote:
BadgerSmaker wrote:
Alpha_Bits wrote:
At the risk of asking for way too much, how cool would it be if you could do your unarmed attacks with the gun in the holster, too? (basically all unarmed and pistol attacks are available without having to equip/unequip your gun).
Ask for everything! Anything you ever wanted!Some nice ideas here so far... keep em coming.
Can I have a million dollars?
No! More ideas!
One million and ONE dollars?
Bah, but it would be nice if you could get +mod's for pistol range.... since rifleman are up too 64 meters, maybe a way to balance it out is put a hard cap on "Ranged offence" of 80 meters, but then add pistol (and carbine, altho this isint your area
) tapes, like +1 meter here, +25 meter at max? just an idea!
Tasomo
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:29 pm
#13
I'd hate for the master quest to take place out of Eisley. In the movies it was a dirty, dangerous place where only scoundrels and villains made their money....in SWG Eisley has 9x the population of the CAPITAL and the "Largest City" (Mos Espa). I think it'd be cool to see him as a random spawn in Fort Tusken...just blazing away like those random NPC spawns in space who attack other NPC's.
As for an final reward...I'd prefer that we are able to craft a Master Pistoleer pistol. Much akin to the "unlimited power-up" that can only be applied to a single weapon. A Master Pistoleer pistol could ONLY be used by the Pistoleer who made it (Just use the coding for the Jedi lightsabers, don't even have to worry about bio-linking it). This stops the Weaponsmiths from raising hell, and keeps the bazaars free of tons of MP crafted hand cannons. All it would be is you pick one pistol you OWN...then you destroy it in something akin to a mini-game (use the smuggler's upcoming slicing mini-game maybe?). This grants you with a personalized schematic of that gun. From there, you hand craft your own version of that gun (schematic is also non-tradeable/sellable) and it's granted the permanent power-up. This ALSO could make the DE-10 a weapon to be used again...instead of just sitting on our walls or in our safe-deposit boxes. In order to keep things balanced, you would only be allowed to have ONE MP crafted pistol at a time (not just inventory...total. You couldn't make them then put them on your wall...you only get the one).
I'm not saying make it as powerful as a rifle...but this most likely wouldn't be too difficult a task to perform if you're using the same coding lines as things already in-game. Hardest part would be creating new text I suppose.
Any comments?
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