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Thread: Which community do you think is getting which new Patch 10 weps?
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Cidem_Relaeh
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:02 pm
#1
Bzzzz wrote:This is presuming that the new models found here are going to be player-useable and aren't just for NPCs.So that said, who do you think is getting what? Here's MY theory for the pistols:Alliance Disruptor Pistol: Rebel Faction (hopefully useful enough to justify overt status)Death-Hammer Pistol: Bounty-Hunters (mainly because it's ugly and I love hating on youse BHs!)
Intimidator Pistol: Imperial Faction (it's big, it's scary.. enough said)Renegade Pistol: Smugglers (it looks strange and hackneyed.. much like the current smuggler profession!)What do you guys think?Zz
Sounds reasonable. As long as I get to use the intimidator, the rest are ugly.
MetallicaJunkie
Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:54 pm
#2
Looking at the skins for each weapon I can't see much going for us.
The Intimidator looks like a carbine, should be packing high damage with AP1, more than likely gonna be an energy weapon too. Not as good as a DE-10, but non-loot craftable perhaps.
Death Hammer looks like a short LLC, possibly republic blaster like damage, electric with AP1. very useful if that is correct.
Aliance Disruptor is blatantly another AP1 acid pistol. All the disruptor weapons in the game are acid. Probably an improvement on the DX pistol in the same way a slug thrower is an improvement on the DX carbine, a little more damage at a little slower speed.
Renegade looks and sounds like a smuggler pistol I agree, which is why I'll go out on a limb and say it's another clone of a current pistol. Probably another republic blaster.
These pistols are like geonosian pistol ugly, except for the Intimidator which is approaching FWG5 in the pimp ratings. I hope none of these things are factional as none of them can be viable for PvP (ie stun damage) or we'll look like a dev favourite this month.
I have my fingers crossed for carbineer as those carbines look nice enough to possibly grab my attention once carbineer is considered viable. Two of those are definitely AP1 energy, the others I'm hoping for AP2 something for one and kinetic with any AP for the other.
Cidem_Relaeh
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:02 pm
#3
MetallicaJunkie wrote:Looking at the skins for each weapon I can't see much going for us.The Intimidator looks like a carbine, should be packing high damage with AP1, more than likely gonna be an energy weapon too. Not as good as a DE-10, but non-loot craftable perhaps.Death Hammer looks like a short LLC, possibly republic blaster like damage, electric with AP1. very useful if that is correct.Aliance Disruptor is blatantly another AP1 acid pistol. All the disruptor weapons in the game are acid. Probably an improvement on the DX pistol in the same way a slug thrower is an improvement on the DX carbine, a little more damage at a little slower speed.Renegade looks and sounds like a smuggler pistol I agree, which is why I'll go out on a limb and say it's another clone of a current pistol. Probably another republic blaster.These pistols are like geonosian pistol ugly, except for the Intimidator which is approaching FWG5 in the pimp ratings. I hope none of these things are factional as none of them can be viable for PvP (ie stun damage) or we'll look like a dev favourite this month.I have my fingers crossed for carbineer as those carbines look nice enough to possibly grab my attention once carbineer is considered viable. Two of those are definitely AP1 energy, the others I'm hoping for AP2 something for one and kinetic with any AP for the other.
I would be thrown in jail for the obscene amount of celebrating I would do if they put an ap1 republic blaster damage range electric damage pistol into BH Pistols IV. Droids, SUCK IT. Yikes. Time to go take a cold shower just in case this is true.
WillburWright
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:42 pm
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MetallicaJunkie wrote:
Looking at the skins for each weapon I can't see much going for us.
The Intimidator looks like a carbine, should be packing high damage with AP1, more than likely gonna be an energy weapon too. Not as good as a DE-10, but non-loot craftable perhaps. Willbur-licious!!!!
Death Hammer looks like a short LLC, possibly republic blaster like damage, electric with AP1. very useful if that is correct. Woot!
Aliance Disruptor is blatantly another AP1 acid pistol. All the disruptor weapons in the game are acid. Probably an improvement on the DX pistol in the same way a slug thrower is an improvement on the DX carbine, a little more damage at a little slower speed.
Renegade looks and sounds like a smuggler pistol I agree, which is why I'll go out on a limb and say it's another clone of a current pistol. Probably another republic blaster. Pleeeeeease not a clone.
These pistols are like geonosian pistol ugly, except for the Intimidator which is approaching FWG5 in the pimp ratings. I hope none of these things are factional as none of them can be viable for PvP (ie stun damage) or we'll look like a dev favourite this month.
I have my fingers crossed for carbineer as those carbines look nice enough to possibly grab my attention once carbineer is considered viable. Two of those are definitely AP1 energy, the others I'm hoping for AP2 something for one and kinetic with any AP for the other.
I like the way you think. ![]()
Like the pistols, but fix the profession behind them!
Kevie
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:55 pm
#5
that intimidator and renegade pistols look pretty effin sweet
so does that e5 carbine, even though i don't use them lol
also did anyone notice this was a mod site, not some plans for publish 10?
got me all worked up at first lol
Jacella
Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:36 pm
#6
Believe nothing, until it HAS happened....even then question it!
We don't need new weapons, we need specials that are pvp viable!!
Koth_Ablon
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:03 pm
#7
I think that the jedi need their own pistol, i mean, they just cant compete in ranged fighting! Where is the jedi pistol?! Maybe it would do lightsaber damage!
KaiRan
Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:34 pm
#8
Renagade to the Smugglers because of its history and background.
Death Hammer to the BHs for the same reason.
The Czerka to carbineer... why not. Maybe marksman carbines.
Underslung BH- nobody else should be that messy.
Intimidator to the pistoleer community, mainly because I dont know where else to put it.
The alliance weapons.... confuse me. The Disruptor reminds me of Merr-Sonn MSD-32. That doesnt help much.
E-5 is a strange one too... carbineer at least.
Ygo
Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:03 pm
#9
KaiRan wrote:.
Underslung BH- nobody else should be that messy.
I think it would work better for commando
KaiRan
Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:06 pm
#10
It occurs to me that there is an enormous amount of speculation flying about with these weapons, and little mentioning of each weapons established history in the EU. For the sake of informing the community, I'll list some data on them here. I'm using the Arms and Equipment Guide by Wizards of the Coast for the d20 Star Wars RPG as a consolidated source.
Pistols-
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=7 target=_blank>Alliance Disruptor: I suspect this is infact the Merr-Sonn Model MSD-32 Disruptor. It would be a good improvement on the DX-2. Historically, this weapon was completely removed from the company records and its history wiped from the databanks as much as one can. A nasty weapon indeed. Many ended up in the hands of criminals, and are still in use. Only reason I could Imagine naming this an "Alliance" weapon is a miss read of that fact. In all sincerity, disruptor weapons are exactly the type of thing the Alliance would be against not for.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=8 target=_blank>Death Hammer Pistol: A decent weapon, heavy damage for its class, and very durable, though a bit weighty. Likely good damage but a slower rate of fire. "Common among Bounty Hunters and Professional Killers." Definately destined for BH certification.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=9 target=_blank>Intimidator: The intimidator is a nice pistol, withinteresting if not unorthodoxlooks. Too bad it doesnt look like this! The model they are using seems to be a modified Kelvarek Consolodated Arms Dissuader KD-30, a slugthrower. If they follow the intimidators stats, it will be a low damage, high rate of fire weapon. The Intimidator was something like a blaster version of a machine pistol. If they follow the KD-30, I dont know what to expect. The FWG-5 was a flechette pistol, the "striker" a slug thrower. Could go in any direction, though I'd love to see an improved kinetic pistol... The KD-30 is infact one of the few real acid weapons in SW, so it could stay true to that, with a DOT perhaps, if they realy want to stick to the original.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=10 target=_blank>Renegade: The SorroSuub "Renegade" is listed as a true "superheavy" class pistol. It stands as the be all and end all of hand cannons untill the BlasTech T-6 "Thunder" arrives on the scene after the fall of the empire... and that weapon is classified as a carbine in some areas! Expect this one to be the biggest single-shot base damage pistol in SWG (providing the devs dont mess it up), at least AP1, and likely hurting in speed. This model has been back-halved, replacing the barrel back with a more realistic design than the original illustrations. "The Renegade... is extremely popular with pirates, smugglers, andothers who feela need to have the largest gun in the room" I smell smuggler cert... but I'm often fooled.

Carbines:
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=1 target=_blank>Alliance Needler: No idea. There are a few canidates, butnone look like the model that I can identify.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=2 target=_blank>Czerka Dart: Same as #1. Czerka is an older manufacturer, dating back to Old Republic times, if that helps.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=4 target=_blank>Underslung: The Merr-Sonn Underslung Rotary Carbine is an attention getter... actually classified as a light repeating blaster with the T-21, this baby is the mini-gun of the blaster world. Expect bad accuracy, low range, high speed and a big punch. Appalingly messy.
- http://mods.swg-asf.com/modules.php?name=ngallery&action=vpic&pic_id=3 target=_blank>E-5: This is a fun little number from the Baktoid Armor Workshop knicknamed the "Droid Blaster" as it was originally intended for droid use. This one has less heat shielding and may pose a problem when fired by living beings. Perhaps a good accompanyment to the cybernetics???
Hope that helps!
Message Edited by KaiRan on 08-12-2004 01:26 AM
Bzzzz
Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:36 am
#11
This is presuming that the new models found here are going to be player-useable and aren't just for NPCs.
So that said, who do you think is getting what? Here's MY theory for the pistols:
Alliance Disruptor Pistol: Rebel Faction (hopefully useful enough to justify overt status)
Death-Hammer Pistol: Bounty-Hunters (mainly because it's ugly and I love hating on youse BHs! )
Intimidator Pistol: Imperial Faction (it's big, it's scary.. enough said)
Renegade Pistol: Smugglers (it looks strange and hackneyed.. much like the current smuggler profession!)
What do you guys think?
Zz
So that said, who do you think is getting what? Here's MY theory for the pistols:
Alliance Disruptor Pistol: Rebel Faction (hopefully useful enough to justify overt status)
Death-Hammer Pistol: Bounty-Hunters (mainly because it's ugly and I love hating on youse BHs! )
Intimidator Pistol: Imperial Faction (it's big, it's scary.. enough said)
Renegade Pistol: Smugglers (it looks strange and hackneyed.. much like the current smuggler profession!)
What do you guys think?
Zz
Message Edited by Bzzzz on 08-11-2004 01:27 PM
BeigeKnight
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:56 am
#12
Am I the only one who thinks the cybernetic arms look silly?
Natures-Ranger
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:43 am
#13
BeigeKnight wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the cybernetic arms look silly?
nope, your not alone.. ill never get one of those!
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