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Thread: Pistoleer vs rifleman...its just so funny
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one2tp
Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:06 pm
#1
i guess we all know it but heres some facts....
Pistoleers best energy weapon = De-10 ap1 low dmg. Hard to craft
Riflemans best energy weapon = T21 ap3 high dmg. Easily crafted
Pistoleers best Stun weapon = geo blaster ap0 Hard to craft
Riflemans best Stun weapon = Jawa rifle ap1 Easily crafted
Now that the riflemans weapons is so much better then pistoleers then where is the pistoleers advantage? the specials?
Rifleman got:
Area attack/states attack/mind attack
Pistoleer got:
Health attack
Then the skill mods....
Rifle acc = 160
Pistol acc = 95
Rifle speed = 90
Pistol speed = 74
Then the defensive skills...
Rifleman:
40 melee defence
70 Ranged defence
Pistoleer:
45 melee defence
7 Ranged defence
Ofcource the pistoleers state defence is better but lets not talk about that.
Lets have some of that giggle dust the devs smoked when creating this.
DarthNkari
Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:35 am
#2
another added bonus to being a pistoleer is when your group goes up against high end content with heavy armor, you can just stand off to the side and not fight! just make a hotkey of "sorry my weapon is ap1" and spam that when anyone looks your way! you can chill and watch tv while everyone else contributes!
jk pistoleer is fun =) thats our special ability
Jeterb
Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:50 am
#3
DarthNkari wrote:
another added bonus to being a pistoleer is when your group goes up against high end content with heavy armor, you can just stand off to the side and not fight! just make a hotkey of "sorry my weapon is ap1" and spam that when anyone looks your way! you can chill and watch tv while everyone else contributes!
jk pistoleer is fun =) thats our special ability
Lol, what a "feature"!
BadgerSmaker
Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:15 am
#4
It is rather comical, but dodge and FS skillsallow me to outlive riflemen in insane situations like gankage by high end mobs.. block is pretty useless.
The ranged defense for pistoleers is pathetic... 7. 
Anyway... all this should be addressed in a few months. I hope.
Jeterb
Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:39 am
#5
Yep, I've got MP + Fencer 0440 and the state defenses are awesome in melee
BadgerSmaker wrote:
It is rather comical, but dodge and FS skillsallow me to outlive riflemen in insane situations like gankage by high end mobs.. block is pretty useless.
The ranged defense for pistoleers is pathetic... 7.
Anyway... all this should be addressed in a few months. I hope.
, in ranged I get blast to bits most of the times.
Ternque01
Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:22 pm
#6
I have the same template and I notice that ranged blows me to chunks. You should stay on the move and hit your targets with a blind (from eyeshot) so they can't cut through your dodge.
Jeterb wrote:
Yep, I've got MP + Fencer 0440 and the state defenses are awesome in melee
BadgerSmaker wrote:
It is rather comical, but dodge and FS skillsallow me to outlive riflemen in insane situations like gankage by high end mobs.. block is pretty useless.
The ranged defense for pistoleers is pathetic... 7.
Anyway... all this should be addressed in a few months. I hope.
This thread is hilarious. I like the "stand off to the side and watch TV" quote.
MadcowwithSARS
Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:42 pm
#7
I do ok with pistoleer, granted im combining smuggler and BH to attain the skill that a rifleman gets just for 1 proffession. I think im like +145 or more to hit. If all else fails in a big group whip out the launcher pistol and lag them to death. This kills more jedi then gank squads. If you lag them to were it delays their Force heals you win. I know its cheesy but its hard to compete otherwise, so whip out the annoyance factor.
Snutwutty
Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:39 am
#8
MadcowwithSARS wrote:
I do ok with pistoleer, granted im combining smuggler and BH to attain the skill that a rifleman gets just for 1 proffession. I think im like +145 or more to hit. If all else fails in a big group whip out the launcher pistol and lag them to death. This kills more jedi then gank squads. If you lag them to were it delays their Force heals you win. I know its cheesy but its hard to compete otherwise, so whip out the annoyance factor.
the new TOS says this is now classed as harassment and can result in suspension.
pistoleers get melee kd, and riflemen have pretty rubbish accuracy <20m, so get in their face and smack them down.
Abai
Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:40 am
#9
Snutwutty wrote:
MadcowwithSARS wrote:I do ok with pistoleer, granted im combining smuggler and BH to attain the skill that a rifleman gets just for 1 proffession. I think im like +145 or more to hit. If all else fails in a big group whip out the launcher pistol and lag them to death. This kills more jedi then gank squads. If you lag them to were it delays their Force heals you win. I know its cheesy but its hard to compete otherwise, so whip out the annoyance factor.the new TOS says this is now classed as harassment and can result in suspension.
pistoleers get melee kd, and riflemen have pretty rubbish accuracy <20m, so get in their face and smack them down.
This is outright ridicoulous. Basically it means that any commando isn't allowed to fight in PvP at any populated area. Since most PvP happens in Coronet then any exploding weapon will set paragraph 3 in effect.
MadcowwithSARS
Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:17 am
#10
Snutwutty wrote:
MadcowwithSARS wrote:
I do ok with pistoleer, granted im combining smuggler and BH to attain the skill that a rifleman gets just for 1 proffession. I think im like +145 or more to hit. If all else fails in a big group whip out the launcher pistol and lag them to death. This kills more jedi then gank squads. If you lag them to were it delays their Force heals you win. I know its cheesy but its hard to compete otherwise, so whip out the annoyance factor.
the new TOS says this is now classed as harassment and can result in suspension.
pistoleers get melee kd, and riflemen have pretty rubbish accuracy <20m, so get in their face and smack them down.
Of course they probably would consider it it a TOS violation, mainly because their baby jedi whine. If the weapon i have a certification for causes lag, they need to look at the weapon not me using it. Just because i can spam last ditch at 1 shot a second with the launcher isnt my fault
Biofinger
Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:03 am
#11
I admit, pistoleer sucks when you only have pistoleer. But with BH pistols (and smuggler pistols/novice commando) pistoleer beat rifleman easily. And I know cause I've fought a lot of rifleman with that combo.
But rifleman is better yes, if you don't have a lot of skillpoints available.
MadcowwithSARS
Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:25 pm
#12
I think Master Pistoleers need range mitigation 3. If i am not mistaken master riflemen get range mitigation 3.
RenKesson
Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:57 pm
#13
EDIT: Double-post
Message Edited by RenKesson on 12-02-2004 11:58 AM
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