Pistoleer Archive

Thread: The Pistoleer's biggest problem

NaKitNa
Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:48 pm
#1

NaKitNa
Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:55 pm
#2


This delay in the combat revamp has truly bothered me.


The single biggest problem with pistoleers progression right now is it's COMPATIBILITY with other classes! Now since they have cranked up the power on BH's its created even more of a problem.


There is not a single other elite class that stacks with so many things as pistoleer does. Carbineer is the closest. Bounty Hunters, Smugglers and Commandoes all benefit from taking Pistoleer. Carbineer's have to be concerned about BH's as well, but they can't give us any help because it unbalances other classes.


Right now I am so mad I am seeing red. There is no way they can make us a competitive combat class without overpowering other classes.


If they want to do something in the meantime, they can make all BH weapons into a special category that isnt stackable with pistoleer, ... smugglers I have enough mercy to over look it for now and commandos also have limited benefit.


I am just seething right now and had to vent.


This really should have been done before JTL

Narcoleptic_LTD
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:08 pm
#3






NaKitNa wrote:


This delay in the combat revamp has truly bothered me.


The single biggest problem with pistoleers progression right now is it's COMPATIBILITY with other classes! Now since they have cranked up the power on BH's its created even more of a problem.


There is not a single other elite class that stacks with so many things as pistoleer does. Carbineer is the closest. Bounty Hunters, Smugglers and Commandoes all benefit from taking Pistoleer. Carbineer's have to be concerned about BH's as well, but they can't give us any help because it unbalances other classes.


Right now I am so mad I am seeing red. There is no way they can make us a competitive combat class without overpowering other classes.


If they want to do something in the meantime, they can make all BH weapons into a special category that isnt stackable with pistoleer, ... smugglers I have enough mercy to over look it for now and commandos also have limited benefit.


I am just seething right now and had to vent.


This really should have been done before JTL







Not quite sure what your saying is the problem here. It SOUNDS like you don't want other classes taking pistoleer skills. There are alot of BH's out there that dont like the skillpoint reduction because they don't like other professions dabbling in bh as well.


I've seen it posted many times before, as the professions stand right now, pistoleer needs bh and or smug pistol lines to be viable. And I know from experience that BH needs pistoleer or carbineer to help as well. I personally went the pistol route, as I LIKE pistols... I just don't understand what exactly it is that your seething about... when, until they actually fix everything, this only helps Both our respective professions. (pistoleer and BH) If your just pissed because other professions are gaining a benifit from your profession... that is just elitism, and completely silly.


If your just pissed about a broken profession, and venting, well I hear ya and /comfort ... they definately need to get it on track for more than a few of us.




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Spike7913
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:24 pm
#4

i'd say it's the brokenass specials, but whatever floats your boat



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ratlif
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:56 pm
#5

He is venting because Pistoleer is treated as a basic profession. Not an elite one, because everyone that has some range dabbles in it.

Like he said, smugglers, BHs master marksman and alot of melee classes pick up some of pistoleer.



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SilentJay1284
Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:22 pm
#6

Well, for me, Pistoleer is a battery for defense as a TKA, which I choose over Fencer so I can have both range damage and range mitigation 3.



If Pistoleer was a lot better though, I would gladly be Master Pistoleer, BH 4-4-4-0, Carbiner 0-3-0-0, and medic.



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kealsidius
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:01 am
#7

well being a master bounty hunter this post makes me frown does not mastering the proffession make me a pistoleer?



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Sovi-FFO
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:29 am
#8






NaKitNa wrote:





Now since they have cranked up the power on BH's its created even more of a problem.





Since when have BHs had power? Just because they lowered the skill points doesnt make the profession any better, just means they can dabble more... its SOE's half assed answer to the BH problems



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Sovi-FFO
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:33 am
#9

*GASP*



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RaifAnduin
Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:20 am
#10

pwned



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Tlk
Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:10 am
#11

I would think that all pistoleers should be honored that other professions take pistoleer skills to enhance their own skills. No one takes pistoleer skills because they decide to make a weaker character. Every single player in the game dabbles. I have no idea why this post was constructed, as a master pistoleer dabbles in smuggler, bounty hunter, TKA, commando, medic, etc... And anyone who takes any pistol skills in my opinion is a pistoleer, no matter what their reason or what else they have in their bag of tricks.
ShadyChrs
Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:12 am
#12

I think you guys are missing the point. What he is saying isn't that people shouldn't be allowed to dabble, it's that since people can so easily dabble in pistoleer, it makes it exponentially harder to fix pistoleer issues. Fixing a broken pistoleer specail is essentially fixing a broken commando, smuggler, and BH special at the same time. That create the possibilty of those professions becoming overpowered. Consequently, the developers are reluctant to fix pistoleer because it affects so many other professions.



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Jedi_Nforcer
Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:20 pm
#13






NaKitNa wrote:


This delay in the combat revamp has truly bothered me.


The single biggest problem with pistoleers progression right now is it's COMPATIBILITY with other classes! Now since they have cranked up the power on BH's its created even more of a problem.


There is not a single other elite class that stacks with so many things as pistoleer does. Carbineer is the closest. Bounty Hunters, Smugglers and Commandoes all benefit from taking Pistoleer. Carbineer's have to be concerned about BH's as well, but they can't give us any help because it unbalances other classes.


Right now I am so mad I am seeing red. There is no way they can make us a competitive combat class without overpowering other classes.


If they want to do something in the meantime, they can make all BH weapons into a special category that isnt stackable with pistoleer, ... smugglers I have enough mercy to over look it for now and commandos also have limited benefit.


I am just seething right now and had to vent.


This really should have been done before JTL





Well.........I guess its a good thing you didnt say anything about making smuggler not stackable with pistoleer becausethat proffession is the most broken 1 yet. On the other hand.........Pistoleer andBH shouldn't be belittled either because, finally a prof which boosts the power of us Pistoleers. I know we share some different views on things but Our proffession being too Compatible with everything else is a good thing. Smuggler gives us good PvP abilities and BH gives us good PvE and PvP but mostly PvE. I believe everyone gets to express their feelings and even if someone disagrees with them that still doesnt mean they are right. But, that's my pov.





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