Pistoleer Archive

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 10:09 AM

well Last ditch has a Delay Multiplier of 4 with damage x 6

Fanshot is 2.4 delay and damage x 4...so depends on your weapon...fanshot however also does the cone damage which is really nice...

go here http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.phpput in your weapon and speed mod and see which specials you really should be doing...personally Healthshot1 and 2 blow fanshot away in damage and the fact that they are Health damage only...

As a master pistoleer does the delay modifier really mean anything?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 10:32 AM

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Morath360 wrote:

As a master pistoleer does the delay modifier really mean anything?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 10:32 AM

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It means alot, we are not riflemen.... we get only 74 pistol speed, you need 93 to spam stopping shot and last ditch at cap with a 3.3 gun or slower. With the 74 pistolspeed and a 2.0 gun you fire last ditch every 2.1 seconds, and even with a 1.5 gun it still only shoots it every 1.6 seconds.

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true_Kieran wrote:

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Morath360 wrote:

As a master pistoleer does the delay modifier really mean anything?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 10:32 AM

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It means alot, we are not riflemen.... we get only 74 pistol speed, you need 93 to spam stopping shot and last ditch at cap with a 3.3 gun or slower. With the 74 pistolspeed and a 2.0 gun you fire last ditch every 2.1 seconds, and even with a 1.5 gun it still only shoots it every 1.6 seconds.

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Thx.. I appreciate the info.. I guess I'm looking for pure dps.. I have a 1.9 geo pistol. I'm trying to find the highest dps special to use. Howerver I will gladly give up dps in favor of ham specialization. So maybe health shot is the new ticket for me.. Also, I am going to do a lot of pvp. Does this change the view of Last ditch? It stuns doesnt it? How does that work with a geo stun pistol?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 11:48 AM

There's a difference between the stun state and the stun damage type

The stun state gives penalties to defense.

The two shots are really used for different purposes. Fanshot is an AOE and very effective against groups. Last Ditch affects a single target with a 75% chance to stun. However, if you give up Last Ditch, Stopping Shot can still be extremely effective but you also give up the only state attack you have with a pistol.

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Morath360 wrote:

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true_Kieran wrote:

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Morath360 wrote:

As a master pistoleer does the delay modifier really mean anything?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 10:32 AM

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It means alot, we are not riflemen.... we get only 74 pistol speed, you need 93 to spam stopping shot and last ditch at cap with a 3.3 gun or slower. With the 74 pistolspeed and a 2.0 gun you fire last ditch every 2.1 seconds, and even with a 1.5 gun it still only shoots it every 1.6 seconds.

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Thx.. I appreciate the info.. I guess I'm looking for pure dps.. I have a 1.9 geo pistol. I'm trying to find the highest dps special to use. Howerver I will gladly give up dps in favor of ham specialization. So maybe health shot is the new ticket for me.. Also, I am going to do a lot of pvp. Does this change the view of Last ditch? It stuns doesnt it? How does that work with a geo stun pistol?

Message Edited by Morath360 on 04-30-2004 11:48 AM

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2 things you need to understand.

1. Last ditch is the best pistol shot in the game it does the most damage and it can stun cutting your targets damage done to you in 1/2.

2. if you are a master pistoleer you have max pistol speed and I know from xp being master smuggler master pistoleer and TKM with max pistol speed that 4.0 delay on a 2.5 speed weapon means nothing.

I never use any of the pistoleer specails other then the bleed and the body shot 3 if I melee and they run with low heath.

On a side note I find it funny as a master of the pistol and its useage we dont get the best pistols or the best pistol skills.

We dont get the launcher pistol we dont get the scatter pistol. Yet the profs that get them one cant even use that gun with there skills IE acid cone with a launcher pistol. And the other gets the best single pool pistol shot in the game EYEshot.

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TarannisBane wrote:

2 things you need to understand.

1. Last ditch is the best pistol shot in the game it does the most damage and it can stun cutting your targets damage done to you in 1/2.

2. if you are a master pistoleer you have max pistol speed and I know from xp being master smuggler master pistoleer and TKM with max pistol speed that 4.0 delay on a 2.5 speed weapon means nothing.

I never use any of the pistoleer specails other then the bleed and the body shot 3 if I melee and they run with low heath.

On a side note I find it funny as a master of the pistol and its useage we dont get the best pistols or the best pistol skills.

We dont get the launcher pistol we dont get the scatter pistol. Yet the profs that get them one cant even use that gun with there skills IE acid cone with a launcher pistol. And the other gets the best single pool pistol shot in the game EYEshot.

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With master pistoleer you have pistol speed 74, this is far from max! read your numbers boy. With pistol speed 74 and your 2.5 speed gun you fire a 4.0 delay every 2.6 seconds! Don't believe me? Then get a watch and take the time.