Pistoleer Archive

Thread: has anyone heard SOE or the testcenter talking about a pistoleer revamp?everything is broke!!

Commandozook
Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:41 am
#1

WillburWright
Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:35 am
#2

Whats new?

BeWary
Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:39 am
#3

not EVERYTHING, we can still /prone

Go gettum.



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smugglerorap
Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:52 am
#4

Hey don't be sad we still have fanshot... yay!



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Kevie
Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:00 am
#5






BeWary wrote:
not EVERYTHING, we can still /prone

Go gettum.





lmao


i can't wait till the sandbox




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CaixCatab
Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:31 am
#6




Ive seen some people mess up entire groups with fanshot, but thena agian they were useing a 300 tick mid fire pistol



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Ternque01
Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:49 am
#7

Half the damage, half the armor piercing, half the specials, half the speed. You might as well pick up a rilfe and actually do something in this game.


/complainoff



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MrjaM7
Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:31 pm
#8

Ive seen some people mess up entire groups with fanshot, but thena agian they were useing a 300 tick mid fire pistol



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Ternque01
Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:10 pm
#9






Koth_Ablon wrote:
half the speed? How does this work out?






Riflemen get +90 speed, pistoleers get +76 speed. With the speed equation used in-game currently, the closer you get to 100 speed, the more exponential you will approach the 1 second speed cap with any special or any speed gun you choose to use.


With +76 pistol speed and a 2.4 speed pistol, a pistoleer will shoot our slowest special every 2.3 seconds.


With +90 rifle speed and a 6.7 speed rifle, a rifleman can shoot just as fast with his/her slowest special.


These are average gun speeds with the speed mods of a master pistoleer/rifleman. Right off the bat, a weapon that does more damage and has more armor piercing can fire just as fast as we can.... but wait.. it gets worse!


Let's say we give each of these guys a +6 pistol/rifle speed attachment.


With +82 pistol speed and a 2.4 speed pistol, a pistoleer will shoot our slowest special at 1.7 seconds.


With +96 rifle speed and a 6.7 speed rifle, a rifleman can shoot their slowest special every second. As a matter of fact... this rifleman could pick up a rifle that is rated at 12.4 speed and fire any special they want just as fast as our pistoleer. Also, with a 6.7 speed rifle (which isa damn slow rifle)


When our profession takes an equal gain in speed through an attachment and all it means is that we can fire a 2.4 speed pistol just as fast as a rifleman with a 12.4 speed rifle.... that's pitiful.


If pistoleers had a comparable 12.4 speed pistol, we'd fire our slowest special every 8.9 seconds.... that is a factor of 5.2 faster that they are than us.


And my last comparison of the day here... A rifleman would have to buy only +6 in speed tapes to speedcap at any special... a pistoleer would have to buy +14. That is 2.3 times the speed tapes. Have fun shopping.




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Koth_Ablon
Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:17 am
#10

half the speed? How does this work out?



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Kaabezza
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:19 am
#11



Ternque01 wrote:


Koth_Ablon wrote:
half the speed? How does this work out?


Riflemen get +90 speed, pistoleers get +76 speed. With the speed equation used in-game currently, the closer you get to 100 speed, the more exponential you will approach the 1 second speed cap with any special or any speed gun you choose to use.

With +76 pistol speed and a 2.4 speed pistol, a pistoleer will shoot our slowest special every 2.3 seconds.

With +90 rifle speed and a 6.7 speed rifle, a rifleman can shoot just as fast with his/her slowest special.

These are average gun speeds with the speed mods of a master pistoleer/rifleman. Right off the bat, a weapon that does more damage and has more armor piercing can fire just as fast as we can.... but wait.. it gets worse!

Let's say we give each of these guys a +6 pistol/rifle speed attachment.

With +82 pistol speed and a 2.4 speed pistol, a pistoleer will shoot our slowest special at 1.7 seconds.

With +96 rifle speed and a 6.7 speed rifle, a rifleman can shoot their slowest special every second. As a matter of fact... this rifleman could pick up a rifle that is rated at 12.4 speed and fire any special they want just as fast as our pistoleer. Also, with a 6.7 speed rifle (which is a damn slow rifle)

When our profession takes an equal gain in speed through an attachment and all it means is that we can fire a 2.4 speed pistol just as fast as a rifleman with a 12.4 speed rifle.... that's pitiful.

If pistoleers had a comparable 12.4 speed pistol, we'd fire our slowest special every 8.9 seconds.... that is a factor of 5.2 faster that they are than us.

And my last comparison of the day here... A rifleman would have to buy only +6 in speed tapes to speedcap at any special... a pistoleer would have to buy +14. That is 2.3 times the speed tapes. Have fun shopping.




*Kaabezza's brain explodes with a less-than-spectacular "pop". He falls limp to the floor and spasms, then writes this reply*

Ouchie... I never thought about it like that. Perhaps I should take up Rifleman LOL



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Kevie
Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:20 am
#12

with bounty hunter we get something like 130 pistol speed


not saying it's right because rifleman's 92 skill points over our 180 some-odd points but it should be taken into account since pistoleer can be dabbled with other professions for better skills, unlike riflemen who have nothing else outside of their profession except the HAR (do these even accept rifle skill mods?)




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There is no command, mood, chat type: smuggle
"#*% damnit, no. Caboose; I'm not cold, I don't want a hotdog, and if you
put mustard in my #&$^ing sheets again I'm gonna kill you." - Tucker
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TeiLinn
Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:27 pm
#13

I pray we get fixed......



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