Pistoleer Archive
Thread: speed cap'd at master?....doesnt look like it
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MattaiTrickster
Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:44 pm
#1
hi
im just about to master pistoleer one day and was looking at the forums to only find out that i cant speed cap at master pistoleer.
this really torq'd me off.
doesnt it only make sense that you are the best at what you dowhenat master of any elite proffesion.
bounty hunter pistols is something completly different then pistols the way i look at it.
sure, if you want to dobh for the specials then fine but why make pistoleer suffer becuz of it.
i dont want to go all the way up bounty pistols i just want to stick to pistoleer......and i want to cap just like every other proffesion thats by itself (which is basically all of them cept pistoleer)
LordMaxx
Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:28 pm
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It would be nice, but yes unfortunately we do not speed cap at master, in fact we dont even get close, only adding Bounty Hunter gives us a speed advantage that some other profs enjoy naturally.... But the revamp is on the horizon, and I hope we can get sped up 
Zandergeef
Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:12 pm
#3
Ya it is sad. With only 74 pistol speed we need more to cap. As a master smuggler my options are limited as far as picking up BH pistols.
djswift2k
Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:08 pm
#4
Zandergeef wrote:
Ya it is sad. With only 74 pistol speed we need more to cap. As a master smuggler my options are limited as far as picking up BH pistols.
youve got 9 pieces of armor + a shirt +bandolier+ belt= room to add attachments. with +2's which u can get fairly cheap on most servers, youd have significant improvement if you cover all your pieces. those little tapes can still be useful. or you can go spend some $ and get a nice big one and put it in a single piece.
Obo-hi
Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:25 pm
#5
The attachments really do help. I have several, cant really remember the exact numbers off the top of my head, But my speed is currently somewhere in the range of 125, i think. But then again, I am almost MBH as well...
djswift2k wrote:
youve got 9 pieces of armor + a shirt +bandolier+ belt= room to add attachments. with +2's which u can get fairly cheap on most servers, youd have significant improvement if you cover all your pieces. those little tapes can still be useful. or you can go spend some $ and get a nice big one and put it in a single piece.
Jolandir
Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:38 pm
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Why can't a pistoleer use every pistol in the game. You can let BHs have a little better ability with the scatter pistol, and the Commando the same with he pistol rocket launcher, but what is the justification that Master Pistoleer can't use certain pistols?????
Jolandir
LordMaxx
Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:51 am
#7
Jolandir wrote:Why can't a pistoleer use every pistol in the game. You can let BHs have a little better ability with the scatter pistol, and the Commando the same with he pistol rocket launcher, but what is the justification that Master Pistoleer can't use certain pistols?????Jolandir
Every Profession should have their perks...the Hybrid professions included. Giving them their own toys does not hurt anything in the game. In fact I dont like the fact that the Smugglers get nothing....
Gehn45
Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:55 am
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Obo-hi wrote:
The attachments really do help. I have several, cant really remember the exact numbers off the top of my head, But my speed is currently somewhere in the range of 125, i think. But then again, I am almost MBH as well...
djswift2k wrote:
youve got 9 pieces of armor + a shirt +bandolier+ belt= room to add attachments. with +2's which u can get fairly cheap on most servers, youd have significant improvement if you cover all your pieces. those little tapes can still be useful. or you can go spend some $ and get a nice big one and put it in a single piece.
Speed Attachments only help if dont have any of the bh pistol line. Hard cap is 100, but 94-95 speed will pretty much cap you on any pistol. Accuracy attachments will help though because accuracy does not cap
HydrAG
Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:40 am
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MattaiTrickster wrote:i dont want to go all the way up bounty pistols i just want to stick to pistoleer......and i want to cap just like every other proffesion thats by itself (which is basically all of them cept pistoleer)
Carbines aren't capped, Rifles aren't capped (But close), Commandos are FAR from capped. Watch the blanket statements. Carbines can cap by going up the BH tree(sound familiar?), and rifleman can cap by mastering marksman. Commandos are just stuck where they are.
Hydra
N00bHunter
Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:00 am
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If your a Master Pistoleer and you want more Pistol Speed, pick another profession that gets more Pistol Speed, like BH. Nothing says that being a Master in any profession is going to put at the highest limit of Speed, Accuracy or Skill. If you want to be the absolute best you have to spend more points on skills to get there.
I am a BH for 3 reasons.. to Cap Carbine, to Cap Pistol, and to becuase in the begining, it was fun.
Just image if BH had Rifle Skills..
And just like the added Speed and Accuracy that comes from the Force Skills, there may more content at a later time to give you more choices on here to get your additional Speed or Accuracy from. But if every Pistoleer was capped with every Pistol, then why would there be a need for more Content.. unless it gave other professions the same speed and accuracy. At which point some pistoleers could complain that other people get what they had before.
I look at each profession like this.. a group of skills.. each skill a building block for the style of play I want. I built the character that works like I enjoy playing.
Jpshaff01
Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:37 pm
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HydrAG wrote:
MattaiTrickster wrote:
i dont want to go all the way up bounty pistols i just want to stick to pistoleer......and i want to cap just like every other proffesion thats by itself (which is basically all of them cept pistoleer)
Carbines aren't capped, Rifles aren't capped (But close), Commandos are FAR from capped. Watch the blanket statements. Carbines can cap by going up the BH tree(sound familiar?), and rifleman can cap by mastering marksman. Commandos are just stuck where they are.
Hydra
Yeah i agree with this guy, the only profs that are capped at master are fencers and tka's. Swords need and extra 20, rifle +7, pistoleer +20 or so, carb +25 i believe, pike +25 i think too. Your best bet right now is to either buy a pre-nerf ubese badnolier, ubese shirt, or mabari belkt with pistol speed already in it. Well actually your best bet would be to get the +12 ranged speed from the FS quests at the village.
Seera1
Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:50 pm
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I am master pistoleer master smuggler andtonight after large scale pvpi had a real eye-opener with my classes. i nearly dropped pistoleer completly due to the fact my best styles (last ditch and stopping shot) take far too long for re-use.
now i dont pvp much, hence why i have not gone for attachments before now, but tonight made me realise how bad a master pistoleer actually is comparred to other classes. a master rifleman was firing at the same speed with styles as i was using body2, now i dont know if he had any skill tapes, or if he even needed any but pissed me off something crazy... turned out to be quite funny tho, me at point blank with no ham left and him intimidated couldnt hit me rofl... ANYWAYS! i was in mid /rant...
why is it other classes get the bonuses of higher AP and/or faster speeds than pistoleer? we get good defences, which dont make the slightest bit of difference when you hunt anything actually worth killing as master. dont get me wrong i dont want higher AP or new damage types. i would just like pistoleer to be a class that can compete, as it stands we fire too slow for too little damage unless we go hunting the universe for stuff to stick on our clothes, which no other class, except maybe swordsman has to do.
sooner the revamp happens the better imo, they just have to make sure they dont screw it up... oh wait ... never mind....
Seera1
Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:56 pm
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the problem with this is that both TKM and Fencer are both ap1 damage tops the same as pistoleer, all other classes have AP2+ with the exception of commando which has heavy burn:- pistoleers get the /finger
Yeah i agree with this guy, the only profs that are capped at master are fencers and tka's. Swords need and extra 20, rifle +7, pistoleer +20 or so, carb +25 i believe, pike +25 i think too. Your best bet right now is to either buy a pre-nerf ubese badnolier, ubese shirt, or mabari belkt with pistol speed already in it. Well actually your best bet would be to get the +12 ranged speed from the FS quests at the village.
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