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Thread: Weapon Hinderance

MsNiL
Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:41 am
#1

Weapon Hinderance

"Your movement speed is slowed by wielding a ranged weapon.
Modify movement speed"


Wouldnt it make sense to have no movement speed reduction when using pistols?


Would give some advantage at least.




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RebelMiner
Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:56 am
#2

Well, we do have the advantage. The movement reduction is less when you are holding a pistol than it is when you are holding a rifle.
MsNiL
Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:59 am
#3





RebelMiner wrote:
Well, we do have the advantage. The movement reduction is less when you are holding a pistol than it is when you are holding a rifle.



Oh. I didnt notice.

Cool.




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Cpl_Fisher
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:27 am
#4

Still, the system I think is dumbed down way to much. why is the weapon hinderence the same for a spraystick and a T21?


By the same token why is the weapon hinderence MORE for a spaystick than that cannon called a DE-10?






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MsNiL
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:32 am
#5





Cpl_Fisher wrote:
Still, the system I think is dumbed down way to much. why is the weapon hinderence the same for a spraystick and a T21?
By the same token why is the weapon hinderence MORE for a spaystick than that cannon called a DE-10?




How come you have max accuracy with a T-21 when running full speed?
How come firing with a T-21 at 5m range is as easy as from 75?





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Cpl_Fisher
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:38 am
#6






MsNiL wrote:





Cpl_Fisher wrote:
Still, the system I think is dumbed down way to much. why is the weapon hinderence the same for a spraystick and a T21?
By the same token why is the weapon hinderence MORE for a spaystick than that cannon called a DE-10?




How come you have max accuracy with a T-21 when running full speed?
How come firing with a T-21 at 5m range is as easy as from 75?








1. you don't, It's just that there are no numbers above your targets head anymore to show you the penalty another dumbed down aspect of the CU


2. Because of geometry. the further away your target is, the tighter your margin of error is, at 5m 1/8 of an inch is the width of a bullet, at 500m, it's the difference between a kill shot and Maggies drawers.





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MsNiL
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:56 am
#7






Cpl_Fisher wrote:
1. you don't, It's just that there are no numbers above your targets head anymore to show you the penalty another dumbed down aspect of the CU

Hmmm. Are you sure?








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TenshiHanaKinu
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:29 am
#8

Same reason wielding an LVA is no hinderance while carrying a Scout Blaster is.





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Cpl_Fisher
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:47 am
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MsNiL wrote:






Cpl_Fisher wrote:
1. you don't, It's just that there are no numbers above your targets head anymore to show you the penalty another dumbed down aspect of the CU

Hmmm. Are you sure?










Try hitting a MDEF jedi who is force running 2 while you are burstrunning, it just doesn't happen. Also rifleman do get an accuracy penalty for close range, its just not shown... Ackehece can confirm this.



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MsNiL
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:59 am
#10





Cpl_Fisher wrote:
Try hitting a MDEF jedi who is force running 2 while you are burstrunning, it just doesn't happen. Also rifleman do get an accuracy penalty for close range, its just not shown... Ackehece can confirm this.



With~200 accuracy I do not expect to hit a 255+500=755rd/50 block Jedi even when both of us stand still...

Although I wonder what happens against a Rifleman when both run around in circles.




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Cpl_Fisher
Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:15 pm
#11

nothing?


remember also that pistols streanth is there speed, rifles streangh is there accuracy....


when you combine duet pyro with aim and snipershot, a rifle hits like a brick wall.


simply put pistols have a harder time against high defense targets, they hit less often percentage wise, and do less damge due to there lower accuracy and lower damage, that is not to say they aren't viable. There is more than 1 dead Mdef jedi that had died from my pistol.


You have to use completely differnt tactics when useing a pistol over a rifle, pistols are in close weapons that while fire rapidly, don't do that much damage. Pistol fights tend to be longer more drawn out fights, it's more of a back alley brawl than anything else. Rifles use more of an alpha strike capability. nice clean kills, problem is if the rifleman doesn't get that quick kill, they are on the defensive, constantly trying to keep there opponent out of killing range.



A bit of historical perspective to. at the shoot out at the ok corral, if I remember high school history correctly, 27 shots were fired at a ranged of 5 feet. 2 rounds connected.





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meninus
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:57 am
#12

Well I got master pist/carbs/marks - why shoudl I have a weapon hindrance at all? Clint Eastwood never had one.
MsNiL
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:50 am
#13

I have always imagine Pistols as deadly on short range. Kinda like "Take them out before they get in to close".




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