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Thread: Hold your horses does this mean the intimidator pistol is not a master pistoleer weapon?

rysan
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:00 am
#1

The best new pistol on the game and a master pistoleer cannot use it..............


Thats madness....


All pistols should be able to be used by a master pistoleer - after all you are a master of pistols...


Madness
velm
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:30 am
#2

Yup, major issues like that one is the reason I dropped Pistols. Pre-CU, Pistols were fun, but I found them lacking. It looks like the trend will continue post-CU.
Scorpion197
Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:31 am
#3

i still dont understand why squad leader needs a pistol.

Its a support profession thats meant to used in conjuction with a combat proff



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Zekk-
Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:39 am
#4

i do not understand why there cant be 2 certs, one there and one here. I dont care if they can use a pistol but i do if someone that is a master of a weapon cannot use a type of that weapon. If thats the idea than why dont pistol get a pik cert, rilfe a carbine cert etc. the devs logic on this matter make aboslutely no sense.



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TimePalladin
Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:51 am
#5

more and more reason to stop playing SWG i guess. Oh well they tried (i think..)



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JediIssus
Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:59 am
#6

I'm curious to know how you know the Intimidator will be the best pistol in the game, considering that they haven't even gotten around to coding many of the new weapons. The stats for the weapons on the CU test server(the ones your getting from the blue frogs) are NOT the stats thatwill be finalised. You'll noticed that many of the higher weaponsall have the same stats. Even the DE-10 is above average indamage. The devs have stated this, and said this willchange and to have paitence. HOWEVER, if you're getting this info from somewhere else, please doshare, i'mcuriousas towhat the new pistoldamage ranges will be.....


I for one, still have faith in pistoleer. After all, lots more speed and quickdraw will make us FAST!



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LordMaxx
Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:29 pm
#7



rysan wrote:
The best new pistol on the game and a master pistoleer cannot use it..............
Thats madness....
All pistols should be able to be used by a master pistoleer - after all you are a master of pistols...
Madness





How is intimidator the best new pistol in the game?

A. all our pistols are changing...all of them remember the Power5? ever heard of it?
B. The weapons off the blue frogs are not indicative of the final product for the crafters
C. If its artwork you are thinking of, time to get your priorities straight. (And DE-10 is best looking weapon anyway )

We cant even fathom the state of pistoleer until someone can actually BE a pistoleer...



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BeakerMike
Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:47 pm
#8






LordMaxx wrote:





rysan wrote:

The best new pistol on the game and a master pistoleer cannot use it..............


Thats madness....


All pistols should be able to be used by a master pistoleer - after all you are a master of pistols...


Madness







How is intimidator the best new pistol in the game?

A. all our pistols are changing...all of them remember the Power5? ever heard of it?
B. The weapons off the blue frogs are not indicative of the final product for the crafters
C. If its artwork you are thinking of, time to get your priorities straight. (And DE-10 is best looking weapon anyway )

We cant even fathom the state of pistoleer until someone can actually BE a pistoleer...





All our Pistols are changing, I think the fear with us Pistoleer's is that the new ones will be ALOT better then the old ones. I mean we all know the Geo is getting nerfed, we have the feeling that the DE-10 is getting nerfed as well. I think the fear is those that want to stay Pistoleer are going to drop there other class (BH or Smuggler) and have to go CM/SL. For us it would be like getting up and told "Yeah SWG isn't PC anymore it's Mac" As for the Power5, yes I remember that ugly little sawwed off child of a DL44...


I mean I hate to say it but Pistoleer has become a supporting class before the CU, and we're feeling we're still a supporting class. And I think alot of us are not happy that those cool new guns are going to CM (A class that already has Posion), SL and Smuggler (A class that could use a Pistol or two). Granted I am glad to see my SR Combat will be useful now, and that I can if I want dab a little in Smuggler for one of the new ones.



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NovaSpice
Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:56 pm
#9






TimePalladin wrote:
more and more reason to stop playing SWG i guess. Oh well they tried (i think..)






Two days of testing in the CU and you're already bitching. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, jackass.


The CURB is going to go through at least a MONTH of testing. Things are going to change. Besides, you can't even BE a Pistoleer yet.


You people are idiots.

rysan
Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:33 pm
#10

Yes i was going on artwork - the intimidator looks kick ass!


I said it looked the best out the new guns and we cant have it... hmmmnever said the de.10 dont look kick ass cos it does...


Yet as a master pistoleer i want to be able to use all pistols. Being envious of another profession using one of our weapons is enough to push any hardcore pistoleer over the edge...


And how many other professions get there own pistols... and how many professions get rifles (besides rifles)... how many get swords (besides swords)...

Do you see my point... it seems our tools of the trade are spread across for anyone to use! And that sucks...
Kalano
Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:57 pm
#11






rysan wrote:

Yes i was going on artwork - the intimidator looks kick ass!


I said it looked the best out the new guns and we cant have it... hmmmnever said the de.10 dont look kick ass cos it does...


Yet as a master pistoleer i want to be able to use all pistols. Being envious of another profession using one of our weapons is enough to push any hardcore pistoleer over the edge...


And how many other professions get there own pistols... and how many professions get rifles (besides rifles)... how many get swords (besides swords)...

Do you see my point... it seems our tools of the trade are spread across for anyone to use! And that sucks...







this is based on some rl reasons. Pistol is the most common weapon for a commanding type of person, squad leader is a commanding type of person. a pistol doesn't get in the way. CM are a combat class, a pistol will not get in the way of healing others.


Look at many guarding profession in rl, you will see all carry pistols in general. The only time you see them with a rifle is in high danger zones. Pistols are the most logical weapon to give, and they want to give all combat professions some type of weapon.


Every combat profession will now be a main profession and a supporting profession. Specials from one can be used in another. heck, i am a commando pistoleer, or i am a pistoleer commando. Haven't really decieded yet which to make my main and which one to be my supporting.


You can't look at the CU with the same only eyes of the combat we have known. It is now all different. Its interchangable, its to be a dabblers dream. Now you can make a 250 point pistoleer instead of a pistoleer with a few specials.


Oh, and not all the weapons have certs in the boxes. they either are mystery weapons to be found and made, or the devs have yet to say where they will go, who gets the certs, and how freakin' awsome they will be.




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Uthyr
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:35 pm
#12

I agree with Kalano, from a practical perspective. On the one hand, I too would prefer that a Master Pistoleer be able to use all pistols, but I can understand why other professions would be able to use pistols also. Consider a real-life analog... any layman can pick up a revolver and kill someone with it (he could even kill an experienced pistoleer if he caught him off-guard), but it would be a lot harder (not impossible, granted) for an untrainedlayman to pick up a heavy 2-handed sword (let's say a Claymore) conceal it, and sneak up and kill a soldier or a martial arts artist with it. Pistols are everywhere in the Star Wars movies, and it was not just trained pistoleers who could use them effectively--look at Princess Leia plugging trained stormtroopers with her CDEF pistol.




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LordMaxx
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:54 pm
#13

The unfortunate truth is...there will always be 'special' weapons for the hybrids. Whether they get their own Pistols, Carbines or Rifles. We just have to accept that they will get them. You dont know, nor will you for a whlie if any of the non-pistoleer pistols will be better than our DE10s or DX2s or Republics. I sure hope not... We should have the best pistols around.

On another note...nerf...that is a word that has NO, none, absolutey zero place here...this is not a lowering and raising of stats abilities and such this is a complete re-write. Forget what you know. Forget what you think you know, forget what you think should be. This is SWG 2.0 in my mind. This combat upgrade is a complete restructering of the combat system and all the components that go in it. So thinking in terms of X gets nerfed just doesnt apply. Lets just concentrate on our abilities and how we can apply them to battle.



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